Like what? With the giant downgrade from A-Rod to Brosius, what position on this team are you upgrading enough to compensate for replacing .300-45-130 with .240-15-50? And like 3rd said, if Cashman told George he wanted a big time pitcher, A-Rod's salary wouldn't stop him.
What players have the Yanks missed out on the last few years because they didn't want to pay them? Chances are if they didn't have A-Rod their payroll would just be a bit lower and the money would not be spent elsewhere.
No way, Pedros clutchosity is even lower then A-Rods. I'm sure junc was pleased the Yankees went with the proven postseason winner Pavano rather then the choker Pedro.
contrary to popular belief there is a cap on how much steinbrenner will spend....im not saying its not a huge huge amount...but there is a cap....if yuo took arod off this team tomorrow and put in a solid number two pitcher even,theyd be a better team...arods bat is awesome(although not clutch)but the yanks dont need the bat they need an arm
The Yankees gave almost 16 mil last year to Jaret Wright and Carl Pavano. 2 players that have been train wrecks on the field at all times, as rare as they were even on the field. But no, you're right, it's A-Rod and his money, that played in every game last year, and put up a 1.031 OPS that are the problem, and why the Yankees don't have a solid #2 pitcher.
thers no doubt the yankees overpaid for both of those guys...but other than pedro pavano was the highest sought after free agent pitcher that year....they certainly didnt give the guy 10 million because they thought hwe was what he has turned out to be.....wright was also coming off a great year with atlanta...what the yankees have to learn is that success in the nl for a pitcher doesnt translate into success in the al....i didnt say arod was the reason for not getting another pitcher...i said that they would be better off with a very solid additional starter right now than with arod......and there is a cap to the madness at some point...really no reason to jump down my throat with your sarcasm
04.24.2006 Dispelling the myth: Arod isn't clutch Let's compare "choker" Alex Rodriguez to "clutch" Derek Jeter. 2003-2005 Regular Season "Close and Late" situations ESPN.com defines "Close and Late" as when the game is in the 7th inning or later and the batting team is leading by one run, tied, or has the potential tying run on base, at bat, or on deck. Arod: .276 BA / .392 OBP / .553 SLG / .945 OPS Jeter: .249 BA / .352 OBP / .392 SLG / .744 OPS Huge advantage to Arod. Now, let's examine their postseason careers: Arod: .305 BA / .393 OBP / .534 SLG / .927 OPS Jeter: .307 BA / .379 OBP / .463 SLG / .842 OPS Advantage Arod. Please stop with the nonsense
I thought we were talking in real world terms here rather then just nebulous statements. In any case I don't think you can say that "a very solid additional starter" would be more valuable to the Yankees then A-Rod. Start throwing some names out there and maybe we can talk. My only point in bringing up Pavano/Wright was to illustrate how silly it is to bash one of the best players on your team that is in there everyday and producing, while leeches like those 2 suck up as much money with no benefit. Maybe you didn't say it(you were certainly implying it) but junc did.
Boy, arent we riding A-Rod a little hard here? Don't you take into account other managers/teams adjusting for his bat and saying, "When we play them, let's make sure we don't let A-Rod beat us or get his hits"? Don't let him do to us what he did to the Twins? It's not like he''s the first big name to ever disappear in a big game. Hey, I'm a fan grateful for Brosius, but give me A-Rod any day. Like Brosius never left a guys stranded? By this reasoning, sounds like some people would rather have Mark Lemke than A-Rod. After all, what Clutch Lemke do in I think the 92 Series, bat something like .460-ish and suck up everything at 2nd base? BB is littered with little guys having big games/series because of big guns being adjusted against. Freddy Patek, Brian Doyle anybody? Over 162 games you'd trade A-Rod for them? Please. With this Yankee lineup, down 3, bottom of the 9th, I'll take A-Rod at the plate over any other Yankee on this team.
Beltran, if we got him he doesn't need to hit here just to be a great defensive CF then we wouldn't have needed Damon and would have spent his money elsewhere. Absolutely, I did not want pedro under any circumstances. it goes deeper than his postseason failings. he's too hated to have him come here, I know you'll say Clemens but I wasn't in favor of getting Clemens at the time either. ARod- ZERO RBI in the 5 game ALDS last year. i don't care about those silly comparisons. i have seen jeter over and over and over again come through(not as much in the past few years but enough to last a lifetime from '96-'01). of course brosius didn't come through every time but he came through ALOt and alot mroe than ARod has so far in his Yankee career and brosius played a great 3B and was cheap. You don't need 9 All Stars, a guy like Brosius was a key to our 3 straight titles even though he wasn't one of our "best" players.
NoMaas is one of my favorite sites on the net. They have some of the funniest pictures around, like "Tony Womack Makes Things Happen". Even though this is all fact, some people don't want to believe that A-Rod is a great player.
i dont think junc or myself are saying that arod is not a great player...that would be ridiculous.....but like i said before when you come to the yankees and make $22222222222222222222222222 a year you have to come through in the big spot.period.and thirdand15 you can throw in any pitcher who would throw 200 or so innings capable of winning 15 games and have an e.r.a aroun3.5 3.75.....whomever that guy is it doesnt matter...the yankees would be a better team with that guy in the rotation,arod off the team and say a good fielding 3rd basemen who hits 255.
I was at a Yankee game against the A's and in the bottom of the tenth tie game late in the season, the Sox were close behind us. Anyways A-rod hits a 2 run homer to win the game by 2. It was very clutch, the clutchness of it actually amazed me.
it's not a fact. First off Jeter and Arod have been regulars since 1996 so why is it just '03-'05? secondly, I don't care what the #s say i have seen derek in the middle of a million rallies in postseason and outside of a series against the twins I have seen ARod do nothing as a Yankee. derek has not been as clutch in recent years as he was during the dynasty years but then again he was moved to the leadoff spot and he is a better 2 hitter which he is proving once again right now. If I have the choice of jeter or ARod w/ the game on the line I don't even have to think twice. I think the only guy i'd choose ARod over in a big spot is Posada.
every player will have moments like that but his are too few and far between for someone who is suppsoed to be a top 3 player.
