Hopefully, he gets better results than Hack did. Frankly, he doesn't have the arm talent to get away with that throwing motion in the league. It's usually one or the other (i.e., unorthodox throwing motion but has arm talent or conventional throwing motion with average arm talent); not both.
Those who think the Jets are winning nothing sounds like whistling in the dark, for a top 3 pick in the 2108 draft, haha. This team is too talented to not win at least 5 games if you analyze the schedule. 1 against Bills, 1 against Fins (without Tannehill of course) 1 against the Jags ( worse team in the league) 1 vs the Chargers another horrible team - and 1 vs the Browns - that's 5 very very winnable games - Now I'm basing this all on if Josh McCown is able start in every game - Jets need to to have a QB on the field that doesn't turn the ball over - Josh has a + rating in TD/INT's . But considering how unpredictable the offensive line is for protection, chances are Petty will be in before too long. Not so sure what will transpire in that case.
Where is the offense going to come from? The team is too talented? Maybe defensively but that won't score you any points. Both Miami games will be loses. The Jets might have had a chance with Tannenhill but I guess you missed how Matt Moore shredded the Jets last year in New York. The offensive line is garbage and the QBacking is awful. When has McCown won 5 games in a season...BOOM.
Mccown has won 2 of his last 24 and you think he will win 5 in his next 16,on this offense? Not happening, 3 wins tops
2 of his last 24 with horrible teams Tampa and Cleveland? Sorry, Jets are better on D - enough to make things close and interesting. imo, the 2017 team is better than the 2016 team. I'm not going to write a long diatribe to explain why - we shall see. Better prepare for this team to be a mid round selection in the draft. People here are wishing this team will tank for a QB next year - don't see it happening - you think the players are going to sit back and listen to these idiots on forums , and twitter pitch doom and gloom.. lol...
When has McCown won 5 games in a season? What logic, lol When had Fitzpatrick won 10 games in a season ever in his career? Or go 1 above .500 ever?? Need a hint? BOOOOM, haha
Welp, if that's how sam feels... screw em. Who really puts faith in USC QB's anyway. Probably Sanchez junior. Mark looked like he had it all going for him too... Josh Allen, Josh Rosen... my eyes are on you two
darnold was a pretty good basketball player in hs. i think youre underrating his athleticism https://www.theringer.com/2017/8/31/16230912/sam-darnold-usc-trojans-basketball-background
As stated in another thread, Rosen's outlandish political sound bites are a disaster waiting to happen here. The New York media will not leave this kid alone and it will detract from his play on the field. Also, he has been to Trump National wearing a "Fuck Trump" shirt. Wood Johnson is in the Trump administration right now. I'm not sure the team would want that conflict.
I am usually pretty optimistic but man, there is 0 talent on this offense and the only thing reliable on d is the line. Arrow is pointing up on the secondary but I wouldn't trust it just yet. This is a bad team,wish it wasn't, but it is.
I wouldn't make any premature evaluations until we see them playing for real. There are questions, but there is also some talent. Jenkins and Elijah, Hanson, Stewart, will make some impact. Injuries can of course play a big role
the last thing i want is another usc qb. name the last one that ever won anything in the nfl, outside of tom flores.
McCown will be injured before he even has a shot of winning more than 2 games - that's just my hunch on the situation. Also, I know its preseason but the way our secondary played against lesser competition would lead me to believe that we will be giving up a ton of points. Put that together with an offense that has a bad o-line and inexperienced wr's and you have a recipe for a team that cannot win on sundays. Honestly, I don't care about wins, its about the young guns. I hope we lose 14 or so games so that we can finally press the reset button the way it's supposed to be reset in today's NFL.
Offensive line will ruin everything. I find hard to believe the Jets will be able to score close to 20 points a game with his offense. I don't think the Jets will beat the Chargers, Jags or even the Browns. I do see 3 wins tops.
With Josh Allen and Sam Darnold's first games of the year being tomorrow I decided to re-acclimate myself to them by re-watching their tape. I still love Allen. If he had some of Darnold's traits he'd be the best QB I've seen in a decade. Particularly, he needs to protect the ball a bit more, own the pocket and work through his progressions better. The only thing that is a cause for concern is his protecting the ball. Too often he takes of scrambling with the ball palmed in one hand, too often he challenges tight coverage. He's made a collegiate career last year doing these two things and succeeding because he's more physically gifted than 90% of the guys he's playing against. Man honestly has RB speed at 6'5 230, has power and elusiveness on the run. His arm cuts through the defense but safeties and corner who play smart have been able to take advantage of his now predictable aggressiveness. That said, he completes passes than most other QBs can't dream of. His accuracy on the run is impeccable, he can throw darts 30 yards down the field with relative ease. His breakaway deep ball accuracy needs work, he overthrows guys quite a bit, so he probably needs to reel that arm back a bit. He's got bust potential, of course, but so do most QBs. What I like about him is he puts the team on his back and clearly is passionate about the game. Going back to school when he most likely would've been a top 10 pick last year tells me he has a pretty good head on his shoulders as well. I don't think he has accuracy issues like many believe. He plays hero ball and throws some passes he probably shouldn't, so he needs to mature in that sense. That said, when he plays hero ball his physical gifts allow him to come out on top most of the time. If he finishes the year with less turnovers and more TDs and shows improvement taking care of the football, I wouldn't mind taking him with our first pick at all, if he's even available. It'll be interesting to see how he'll do this year with his top 2 targets in Tanner Gentry and Jake Maulhardt gone, as well as Brian Hill. Now the team truly is reliant on him.
Just out of curiosity, do you mean no proven talent, no "top end" talent, or do you think Powell, ASJ, Leggett, Gragg, McGuire, Anderson, Stewart, Hansen, Petty and Hack have no talent? If you said there was no "top end" talent on the team, then I'd tend to agree with you, although the jury is still out on ASJ and some of the other younger players, but I disagree that there is no talent on offense. It's certainly not ideal, where it needs to be, or where we want it to be, but there is definitely talent on the offense.
Darnold is special. He's manipulating defenses with his eyes and reading them like a book. Nobody does that in college. Shoot only the good ones in the pros do that. His eyes are always downfield and he's got outstanding anticipation. I'm not worried about his delivery. He reminds me of Russell Wilson. Wilson is another guy with a slow delivery that is not a problem because he sees the field so well. I would kill to have Darnold here. The other guys seem like good QB prospects but not a person you kill for like Darnold. Although I havent seen enough (any) Wyoming football games to know about Allen yet. Don't count out Rudolph at Okla State. He's a spread guy but he's got a hell of an arm
Do you think his arm is strong enough to handle the winds in the Northeast in Nov-Jan., or will he be more limited in cold weather?
his arm is as strong as Brady's and Wilson's and those guys do fine in cold weather. When you can read defenses as good as Darnold can you don't need a cannon because you find the open guy so much
