No need to entertain jerseyjay. All he looks at are numbers which dont tell the whole picture. If you're a savvy and educated NFL fan you understand that. And if you're a thinking NFL football fan, you can tell Darnold has a bright future. He seems to be a quick learner, and right now he's going through the expected growing pains.
There is no talent on this offense. I texted my brother Saturday and said we were gonna get smacked around on offense. No Enunwa, Pryor got cut, Crowell is dinged up, and Spencer Long can't snap the football (1 of our turnovers came from this). We had Charone f****ng Peake getting snaps at WR ffs. Anybody with eyes can see Darnold is gonna be a player in this league, it just isn't going to happen from day 1 (Kid is 21!)
Oh oh, I know!! Is it that Peyton Manning fellow? What a bust that bum was. Indy should've taken Leaf. What were they thinking??!!
Sanchez Rookie Year 23 years old TD%- 3.3% INT%- 5.5% Y/G- 162.9 QB Rating- 63 Completion %- 53.8 Y/A- 6.7 Fumbles- 10 Darnolds Rookie Year 21 years old TD%- 4.5 INT%- 4.5 Y/G- 221.7 QB Rating- 74.3 Completion%- 56.1 Y/A- 7 Fumbles- 3 (Although this will obviously go up). 2018 Jets- 1.75 points scored per drive 2009 Jets- 1.62 points scored per drive 2018 Jets- 1.76 points given up per drive 2009 Jets- 1.02 points given up per drive Sanchez team had significantly more talent on the line, and in the running game. Receivers I'll call a wash. In addition, offense is a bit easier now than it was back then, so Sam has that in his favor. I mean dont these numbers kind of look like Darnold is better in just about every way? Not to say that Darnold is a future hall of famer or anything, but this comparison seems a bit lazy. Especially since we've decided stats are the be all end all in this discussion. Lazy comparison IMO. At two years younger, with a much younger team, Darnold has performed better than Mark in virtually every area.
It is true that the NFL is way more protective of QB's now than it was in '98. But, that doesn't mean that if a QB doesn't light it up right away, he's gonna be a bust.
QB A: 326/575, 56.7% 3739 Yds, 26 TD, 28 INT QB B: 123/259, 47.5%, 1663 Yds, 7 TD, 14 INT 214/380, 56.3%, 2598 Yds, 18 TD, 15 INT 327/605, 54.0%, 3891 Yds, 22 TD, 23 INT QB C: 155/293, 52.9%, 1749 Yds, 9 TD, 18 INT 226/399, 56.6%, 2579 Yds, 11 TD, 18 INT I could go on and on. Let me ask you. Do all these QBs suck? Did they have sucky career?
I remember Sanchez getting rattled at the first sign of pressure way too often. Don't see that with Darnold. Sam is far more poised.
I mean thats night and day lol. But apparently, this is a discussion with just stats. I wanted to make sure everyone saw the stats.
I think it’s a dangerous precedent to ban someone just for making stupid/troll posts. But if we all put him on ignore we can just let him shout into the abyss and act like he’s not there.
I mentioned weeks earlier in this thread that it’s not fair to compare Sam and Mark - but it is fair to compare the excuses the fans made/make for their mistakes. This is still true. But I understand why it happens because we all want Sam to succeed. However, I can’t be a Sam apologist. I evaluate Sam objectively, both good and bad, and what we have seen so far has been overall fairly mediocre. Like Mark, Sam goes hot and cold, hot and cold in a continuing cycle. In the NFL, a franchise QB is mostly hot with rare bouts of cold. Sure he is still a rookie but why so much backsliding in his development. My concern is he was known for turnovers in college. There has been zero improvement on that so far. What makes fans believe that is going to change? Shouldn’t there be some evidence that he is changing before you assume he will? This is becoming a very concerning trend. Sam has the most starts of all the rookies this season and is showing the same hot and cold we saw in the first few games. I can’t get into all his shortcomings because they are piling up. Then we get excuses for his lack of improvement. “It was the lines fault. It was the running games fault. It was the receivers fault,” etc. Sometimes excuses have merit but in the NFL, but at the end of the game when a QB plays poorly, it is his fault. Sam had the same WRs yesterday that Mc Cown had last season. The hard truth is that McCown is currently the best QB on our roster. We are not starting our best QB this season, and that is starting to irk me. I’m not one of those “this is a throwaway season anyways” fans. In fact the tanking talk from last season made me sick to my stomach. I want to win every game. McCown should start the next few games and let Sam sit and watch how it’s done in the NFL. If McCown implodes or gets hurt than we can bring him back. But he needs time on the bench now. Sometimes benching is the best thing you can do for a competitive QB.
But then you remember he had marvin Harrison and edgerin James to help him out and it sounds about even again
You are saying Sam will look just as bad with Mangold snapping the ball for him, am I right? It's a simple YES/NO question.
Manning had a bad year in 1998 and Aikmen has a bad year in 1988. Therefore Bryce Petty is going to be a great QB in this league one day, right? Come on man. These stats are meaningless. Teams saw potential in those QBs and thats why they succeeded.
