Now you're comparing Zach Wilson to Peyton Manning? I know what you're trying to say, but the reality is Aaron Rodgers is not in there right now. Zach Wilson is, and no other NFL team would continue to stick with what he's doing.
obviously the grandma thing is a joke/exaggeration but people have said that the corpse of matt ryan, or kaepernick would be better. and that simian and boyle would be better. and last year streveler would be better. and that we should have traded for minshew or winston (which mind you they probably weren't even available and both have looked bad) it's funny because there was 1 game this year where NO was struggling. the coach pulled carr and put in winston. his 1st throw was a pick 6 and they benched him and put carr back in.
I know what you're saying, I even said as much in my response. However, that is completely besides the point. That's a decent discussion in week one. In week 10, eight games into the season, there is absolutely zero excuse not to try something different when this guy is not working. And he's not.
Nah, that’s not true. Carr came out of the game against Green Bay for a shoulder injury and didn’t return. He was benched against Tampa Bay when the game was over and Winston’s interception was not a pick 6. It was downed and led to the Buccs killing the clock until the end of the game.
sure the offense is fundamentally broken and ineffective. but we are still 4-4 and most people here expected us to be 4-4 at this point with rodgers. so "not working" is pretty relative. we could be 0-8 and at that point i'd say fuck it. why not. but at 4-4 you don't play a worse QB "just because" I mean benching zach isn't going to fix an injured o-line allowing way too much pressure a WR group who's dropped too many passes GW fumbling Breece not securing a pitch Bad snaps from OC Ruckert with 2 bad pre-snap penalties GW with a dumb penalty Lazard with a dumb penalty There are a lot of issues with the offense as a whole. and zach isn't a "solution" but benching him for a washed up journeyman who was unemployed until 2 weeks ago doesn't make any logical sense. If it was a case where zach was playing like he did last year and we didn't have the other issues going on then I'd get it. but saleh has already said he gives us the best chance and the players believe in him.
Once again, you have absolutely no way of backing up your assertions -they're just opinions. How do you know the offensive line wouldn't play better with a guy who is better at reading defenses and more decisive? GW fumbled one time, he has pulled Wilson's ass out of the fire 100. That's a pretty good ratio. It goes on and on. For every point you make there's an easy counterpoint the other way. And not a single one of them gives a valid reason for not trying something else. In fact, 4–4 with a real shot is even more reason to try it when you've now something like five straight weeks of complete ineptitude on offense. How many more weeks of that do you need to see before trying anything just to shake things up? They're just throwing the season away for no apparent reason. Nice talking to you as usual. I have in New Hope about to go to my wife's niece's wedding, have to run.
I never mentioned anything about the injury game? not sure where that comes from. you are correct though it wasn't a pick 6. they benched carr with 3 mins left after he took a sack on 4th and 10 down 14 points so game was over. winston came in and threw 1 awful pass way underthrown and the bucs picked it off and took a knee and didn't try to run it back
G&C, You are an NFL offensive coordinator and Zach Wilson is your quarterback. You try giving him the standard playbook to start—slants, digs, outs, nine routes. You soon discover that, because of his size, he can’t throw slants. Because he’s never on time and he’s inaccurate, he can’t throw out routes. You watch in horror as he dirts easy swing routes. What you soon learn is that Zach Wilson’s lone strength as a a passer is his ability to fire a fastball into the hashes into a receiver’s chest when Zach can see their numbers. He also has a strong arm, so maybe you can incorporate a few deep sideline passes, but you find out that he’s a little gutless and doesn’t want to wait in the pocket long enough to throw those passes. By midseason, you’ve edited your playbook down to about three pages of comebacks, curls, and a few other patterns where Zach can hold the ball for three seconds and throw it as hard as he can into someone’s numbers. Uninformed Jets bloggers and professional trolls like Dab Orlovsky pluck a few plays out of context where you called one of the few plays in existence that you think Zach Wilson can run and they slander you.
not everything there is an "opinion" I mean the o-line is factually quite beat up with injuries The o-line has been factually bad due to that ruckert did factually commit 2 pre-snap penalties at bad times that hurt drives Hall did factually take his eye off the pitch. now you can debate if it was his fault or not on an overall or if the pitch wasn't great but I think most would agree it was catchable lazard has factually dropped a high percent of balls yes some thing are my opinions though and some people have their own differing ones. thats all part of forums. I don't mind differing opinions as long as they are backed up by an explanation. what I laugh at is the people who "seagull" with google stats and are irrationally angry. anyway have fun at your wedding.
Helen Keller and Ray Charles enter the chat. I was all for giving Zach Wilson a true chance but that was mostly through necessity because beggars can't be choosers. I've lost count how many times I've said this, but Joe Douglas & the Jets FO not preparing for a worse case scenario is inexcusable. No Football Doomsday Preppers, seriously? "We'll get 'em next year!" is a bogus retort. I'm past giving a shit if Douglas committed career suicide or not because of it. Him wearing a T-Shirt that says 'I'm with stupid" with an arrow pointing at Woody Johnson doesn't erase the problem. The situation the team is in which essentially has Joe Douglas staring down the gun barrel of his own life and by default the fans makes the farcical Rodgers move look like Mike Tannenbaum was back on the building, and that's precisely what it is because of the hapless result. No vision except tunnel, and the light at the end of it isn't a beacon of hope. It's a locomotive.
Life of being a Jets fan! I've seen so many horrible coaches, GMs , Douglas has done good things, in the draft, and some FAs, but his legacy will forever be, shrouded with Zach Wilson
The crazy thing is it didn't have to be. Yeah Rodgers getting hurt was awful luck (though Douglas and Saleh are partially to blame for the Duane Brown at LT fiasco), but if Douglas had brought in someone who could start in the event Zach wasn't up for the task, he'd have been forgiven for the Zach pick.
Very true, watching the Texans game, CJ Stroud another big game, Josh Dobbs another big game, and we can't even sniff the end zone, tonight's game will be another abomination in primetime
Of course this is the case, but the deeper issue was to bring in a better than decent scrub and NOT sign Rodgers. 80 year old Joe Namath could've won the game last week throwing a football through a nursing home window. The Eagles game/win was a thrilling shocker and a happy surprise, but this is so Jets to flatline and have the bottom fall out because offensively they can't find their way out of a paper bag vs teams who can't get arrested robbing a bank in broad daylight. Not a run on sentence. I love when that happens.
The fact that we didn't make a trade for him is borderline criminal. For him to be gotten by Minnesota for only a 6th while we're sitting here watching our guy look like he couldn't hack it in a high school junior varsity game just makes me sick. It shows that they're not even trying. If there was any justice in the world, the defense would go on strike. Refuse to show up until they make a change at QB. I mean seriously, don't take the field when it's time to, let the other team run against air. It's basically what the offense is letting the opposing defenses do.
I’m rooting for Josh Dobbs. He’s a smart guy who has waited his turn and now he’s thriving, good for him
