To say the #2 WR wouldn't make the roster is pretty ridiculous. Who speculated that aside from random Jets fans? Plus, even if you believe the silly "my guys" conspiracy theory, Rodgers talked positively about Corey Davis before he even came to the Jets, so that would be one of his guys. I understand giving him the benefit of the doubt because we don't know the specifics of the situation, but getting cucked isn't on my list of acceptable excuses, especially with less than a month to go before the season starts. That decision should have been made before the draft at the latest. Now that he's been out of football for a year, who knows if he'll ever be close to what he used to be. One can hope, but I'd rather see them try to get a WR like Evans or Adams.
It was made official less than a month before the season started but the front office knew well in advance of that. The front office simply dropped the ball replacing him. Like most of their poor free agency decisions of Joe Douglas' regime, they struggled with pro scouting. They overvalued the type of player Allen Lazard was. They didn't realize Randall Cobb was washed up, etc.
Felt good thanks lol. I'd go with a stop gap option at QB. In terms of long term ideas I would hire Alec Halaby as GM and Ben Johnson as Head Coach. Both of them are top candidates with proven track records of building top offenses and deep, talented rosters. If they don't make the playoffs next year I think the Jets should go after these guys ASAP. That's progressive, forward, offensive-minded thinking but we shall see what they do or don't do. For the QB this year the reason I go with stop gap is I still want to see what Rodgers can do and there's a plethora of guys out there on the market. I need to see if there's another thread on this. If not there should be one. But just think of all the solid backups who stepped in this year and did good in spot action or over a longer string of games. I never understood why Josh Dobbs got benched so quick last year. He went from hot to not in a nanosecond. I thought it was too quick based off of one or two bad games but maybe I'm wrong and it was based on a larger body of work. My point being is there's a lot of guys on the market and it would defy all logic if the Jets don't find one solid backup/stop gap and see if we find magic in a bottle. I was being a bit tongue in cheek about Rodgers and obviously I would 1000% love for him not to get hurt next year. I hate that I have to be this down on the franchise but they've given us all way too many reasons to be.
Every time I reply to somebody and they like it but don't say anything I get a little bewildered. Trying to have a nice discussion in the only true down time of the NFL calendar year, but then I saw how long your post was. I really gotta log in on my laptop, cuz using swype on tapatalk is such a pain for longer thought out opinions. Anyway, I think you nailed it with Dobbs. They were doomed even after benching him when he was a spark. It wasn't like he had 1 good game. He was the hottest topic for weeks. But whatever not my team, and even my local team's big rival... so f em. Lol As for our shared opinion of a stop gap safer option for now, that sounds great on the surface until you see who will be out there. The 2 best qbs are Cousins, and Baker. They'll never come here to be a back up so let's move deeper. After that you've got Tannehill which wouldn't be the worst, but I'm sure he'll go somewhere else to at least try to find a spot he has a chance to win the job. After that there's Rudolph... yeah. I would have to look it up, but that's who I know for sure. (I just watched a WyattzWorld video about free agents coming up. ) The rumor of us being interested in either Howell, or Brisett is to me such a much better ideal thing. However we would have to give up a draft pick or 2, and I am all for getting as many picks as possible, even trading down from 10. But that's another conversation altogether. Sent from my genius mind.
First off, there is absolutely nothing "conspiracy theory" about pointing out that this team most certainly catered their WR room approach to Aaron Rodgers after he was acquired. "Silly" is arguing that. In what i can only assume is some overly defensive fanboy need to not acknowledge anything that might somehow reflect bad on Rodgers I guess?. I mean if Corey is a "cucking" us there by deciding to retire with nothing to gain on the career side and everything to lose, what does that make you there? A Rodgers' simp? Just saying Secondly, what again does labeling CD as "#2" there actually even change in last year's Hackett putrid offense? You think those schemes just magically start working, guys are suddenly getting wide open, and Zach is left slinging the ball all over the field? Corey Davis, who i would personally like to see in a better surrounding support system, just isn't that kind of player talent man. Like i'd get your take a lot more if there was actually a suggestive angle where walking away from the paycheck might have helped him. But there doesn't appear to be.
It's hilarious there are 2 totally different conversations being had in this thread lol. We're a wild bunch, but I guess that's why we're Jets fans. Sent from my genius mind.
That isn't even hitting on the surrounding reality that we aren't talking about Mike McDaniel bringing in Tyreek Hill here. In all probability Mike Evans, in THIS Hackett lead offense behind an aging out of the league QB, is basically just the upgraded disappointment version of Allen Lazard. There is literally zero chance the opportunity to even remotely replicate those 2023 stats will even be there on this team. Not a lot of bang for the buck appeal in spending big on a secondary WR with no supporting evidence suggesting we could even adequately utilize one.
I'm just trying to water down some of that heat coming at Corey lol Especially when again, i don't expect there to be a better option out there for us this winter
If I went to my favorite food spot where I'm a regular and I learn my favorite employee quit...I would be OUTRAGED!!! JK but I thought it was a hilarious way to compare.. Sent from my genius mind.
Mike Evans just became available. Let's see how much Joe has to throw at him since he's past his prime. Rib.
I didn't mean to imply that Davis should be obligated to explain his stepping away or that he should ever feel pressured to spill his guts about his personal life. Personally, I as a fan would welcome Davis back with open arms, whether he says one word about his retirement or not. I was reacting to some sentiment I've picked up from some Jets fans (sentiments which, for all I know, might be shared by some teammates) that they might have felt let down by his decision to retire in late August of last season. I think that to address any such lingering feelings would be a good PR move for him. Maybe "important" is too strong a word for a PR statement. I envision no more than a simple, brief update of his retirement statement, such as, "I've enjoyed spending extra time with my family, but I'm now looking forward to playing football again." I still think that this would be a hell of a signing!
Looks like Tanny finally lost it. He was also suggesting for Russ to come here to back up Rodgers. Crazy is the right word! I would like to see Corey Davis and Fant come back though at reasonable deals. Fant played hurt in the last year here, and while I don't want to make an excuse for him sucking, he did come back strong in Houston. It may be a really good OLine signing as a swing tackle without breaking a bank. On Corey, I completely agree with @joelip, it would be great to get him back for reasonable deal. I really wanted to see Davis last year finally with good QB play, and would be nice if it happened this year. We still need someone else, but maybe we can get someone with the 3d in the draft or even move up to the second for a WR. I really doubt we would be able to get anyone better than Corey in free agency though.
I'd be all in on Corey Davis. I'm amazed, but apparently Fant stayed healthy in 2023 and had a decent year. I'm still leery of older linemen because of JD's history of signing players who were basically shot (Kalil, Brown, Saffold, etc.). So I would like more facts about Fant, who is 32, to get on board for his signing. I hope the Jets do a thorough physical exam and give him an incentive-heavy contract if there are no significant physical issues. Since I lean toward younger players with upside over older players at the end of their career, my preferred candidate for reserve tackle on the left side would be Josh Jones. He was so-so with limited reps at Houston last year but had a good year with more reps in Arizona in 2022. He should be a reasonably priced free agent with some starter upside. It seemed to me that Carter Warren's feet are better suited to the right side, where he played last year. Jones and Warren would make decent reserve tackles, in my opinion. I've pretty much lost hope about Mitchell.
PRO TIP: Save money on appetizers by getting sushi at a convenience store on the way there; it's usually right across the street.
IMHO since they're committed to rodgers...if the jets fail to fix the OL, including capable backups, none of the rest of this matters
Rodgers debunked that bullshit about forcing the Jets to take his guys a while ago. Obviously the coaching staff asks him about guys and he gives recommendations about his former teammates, but there was never a demand list or reason to think he didn't want Davis on the team. That was complete horseshit 100% fabricated by the media. LOL @ being a Rodgers simp, I'm not even a fan of him as a person, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the media running with rumors and crucifying him over speculation. Yeah, if Davis quit football for his wife, he got cucked, there's no way around that. She knew who he was and what his career was before they got hitched, not fair to give him an ultimatum like that a month prior to the season starting when he's got a chance to achieve the greatest prize of his career. Like I said, there are acceptable reasons, that is not one of them, IMO. Corey Davis was #2 WR. That's hard fact. Lazard was brought in to be #3. Yeah CD had existing chemistry with Zach, and he's better than Lazard, I don't think that's debatable. And yeah, there's a big difference between Rodgers playing and Zach Wilson playing. CD would have added a much needed security blanket for Zach. Not saying it would have put the Jets in the playoffs, but that's one of the reasons they were weak at the position.
[QUOTE="if Davis quit football for his wife, he got cucked, there's no way around that. .[/QUOTE] Not going after you personally but this is a rough take. These guys are human beings with personal lives. If the decision was made because he and his wife were going through some shit i'm not sure how that is "getting cucked".
