According to PFF https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-10-offensive-players-set-to-hit-free-agency-in-2017/ among the potential offensive FAs available in 2017 are: Alshon Jeffery (WR) Le'Veon Bell (RB) Terron Armstead (LT) Ryan Schraeder (RT) Cordy Glenn (LT) Kevin Zeitler (OG) Jordan Reed (TE) David DeCastro (OG) Think any of those could help our team? Among the top defensive players who potentially will be available are: Von Miller (OLB) Chandler Jones (OLB) Jamie Collins (LB) Dont'a Hightower (LB) Tyrann Matthieu (S) Eric Berry (S) Kurt Coleman (S)
I don't think Revis has at all been a problem since week 2. People are starting to over exaggerate. Overpaid ? probably.. Declining? absolutely. But he's not getting embarrassed. He's not the single reason our defense is allowing passing yards.. in fact in the last 5 games it's been pretty much everyone but revis getting picked on. Bowles needs to understand Revis cannot be used as an island anymore. However you can still allow him to be a PRESS (which is never the case) MAN corner with safety help up top.. The only reason offenses getting these quick passes off now is because the CBs are all playing 7-8 yards off, and when they do press up we blitz everyone so it's basically just speed vs speed after that with revis and his opponent and he's going to lose that more often than not at this point in his career. None of our corners can keep up with even a 4.5 speed WR on a go route.
I'd say we let of Gilchrist, Harris & Gio or whoever needed, go all in on Jordan Reed and Eric Berry. But that's never happening lol.
I agree with much of your previous posts suggesting we need to make some aggressive moves. But I don't think that any of those top flight guys above will be available. No way on DeCastro & Terron Armstead already signed a long-term extension back in May 2016. I wouldn't mind Kevin Zeitler OG at Cincy. They stopped negotiating with him at the beginning of September. Guy is a top-ten guard. The only question is --- do we want to commit a lot of $$ to that position. The really good teams in the NFL stay good by drafting guys to play at the "cheap" positions. We pay James Carpenter like 4.5 mill per year. Thats value.
I guess the PFF article is old regarding DeCastro and Armstead. I agree with you regarding Zeitler, that I prefer drafting OGs so that they're cheaper, but I remember that Mac tried to sign both the two top-ranked OGs who were FAs last year, but both preferred playing on the left coast. I knew some here would be all in on Zeitler, that's why I mentioned him. There will be other FA OL and players at other positions who are cheaper who could help this team too. Glenn is playing on a franchise tag, Buffalo may not be able to re-sign him, and it would be great to help ourselves while weakening Buffalo at the same time. What if we could outbid Denver for Miller? Can you imagine Miller behind our DL? Adding a Jordan Reed or Matthieu would be huge as well. Regardless of what happened in FA, I think moving those two players would help the team in the long run. Getting two additional high draft picks could be huge in filling some of our holes, and giving some young players more of a chance to develop this year could be as well.
Does look like we'll be lite geno, marshall, fitz, breno, gilchrist, revis?, and a few others..... Dam QB position is the killer. Has to be solidified. I don't think the other positions will be a huge issue.
i think it's just more fans being fans. the only ones i could see gone from that list is breno and geno
I am so glad you guy are only fans and not making any decisions for the New York Jets Football Team. (Scary)
Seriously? You think that Fitz will be back after the way he has played this season and then criticized the FO, CS and Woody. If he is back, then Woody ought to be forced by the fans and NFL to sell the team and Mac and Bowles should never work in football again. The Jets are over the cap for next season. Players will have to be cut to gain cap space. Breno sucks, Fitz sucks (but will give us no cap space), Gilchrist is not much better than suck, Kellen Davis sucks, Marshall drops too many passes and is complacent about it and would give the Jets a huge amount of cap space. Harris is slow as molasses and his body is breaking down. He'd give the Jets a big chunk of cap space. More than Breno and Geno will be gone imo.
not fitz, but he is walking as in we aren't cutting him. it was a 1 year deal. Same with geno, he isn't being cut he's just leaving as a free agent. I was more referring to cutting players. I meant it as you see fans saying revis, marshall, decker, ghilcrest, harris, mangold etc will all be cut and I find it highly unlikely.
There is a wonderful fantasy world where we get a Colts first for Richardson and a Chiefs second for Marshall. It isn't the world we live in. We -might- get a first for Richardson for a team that, if they take, him, goes over the top. I only see one team who Richardson can "put over the top" - and that's the Cowboys. Alternatively, they might trade La'El Collins - he's out for the (regular) season with an injury, but is a young and talented OL who will be going into a contract year of his own, plus a low (5/6/7) round pick. They're loaded on OL, we're loaded on DL, and it'd make sense for both teams. I doubt any team gives up anything higher than a 3rd for Marshall. And despite his drop rate, I still think Marshall is the best WR we have - and I can see him taking a slight discount to stay in NYC next year due to his (obvious) desire for a media-filled future.
Please. You don't know any better than I or the reporters who wrote the article what reality is, so get off your high horse. The Colts traded a first for Trent Richardson just a season or two and that's after he had been a bust. Sheldon hasn't been a bust. The Colts are pretty bad, if not terrible on defense. He would improve their D immediately, while draft picks can and do fail. The author of the article may have been overly optimistic about what we could get for Marshall, but he could be right if the Chiefs think that Marshall could put them over the top and past NE. Getting to and possibly winning a SB could very easily be worth a 2nd round pick to the Chiefs, and they'd still have his services next year. Even if it was "only" a 3rd round pick for Marshall, that's still pretty darned good and better than we gave for him. Marshall won't be on the team in 2 years, and maybe not even next season. He could decide to retire, or the Jets might opt to commit to a youth movement and seek to trade or cut him during the off season. This team needs to be building for the future and forget about this stupid retooling on the fly where they try to win with mediocre and/or older players. It isn't working and isn't going to. Having Marshall next season might enable the team to win another 1-3 games, but it isn't going to be good enough to get a SB victory. That's why they have an NFL season, and that's what is truly important, not having a 9-7 record rather than an 8-8 or 7-9 record. Marshall, Fitz, Harris and even Mangold are not the future. They are mostly the past. A player who is content to drop around 10 passes a season (as long as he isn't the worst in the NFL, but 2nd worst is ok) isn't worth keeping or paying $7.5 million to imo. Mangold is breaking down and he might opt to retire. The Jets need to start finding replacements for those players and upgrading other positions. The younger players they have that are worth keeping need to be developed. They can only develop so much on the bench. Then they need to play. Most fans on this site have come to the realization that the Jets are going nowhere this season, and probably won't next either, unless Petty or Hack are ready and a lot better than many posters think, and thus see that the team needs to think long term and about the future. I'm sorry that you haven't come to that realization yet and are still stuck in the past.
Some roster moves made today. Ryan Clady has been placed on IR with a shoulder injury, so in all likelihood, won't be back next season. The Jets waived Jarvis Jenkins, and signed 3-year vet DT Anthony Johnson off of the Pats PS.
Clady couldn't even make it through this season. It's unfortunate for him that his body is breaking down, but he was just placed on IR with a shoulder injury. He probably won't be back next season. Jarvis Jenkins was just waived/released, so he won't be back next season, either. It will be interesting to see what happens with Mangold. I'm torn. The Steelers and Pats aren't sentimental with players. When they get old and expensive, they trade or release them. On one hand, that seems like the smart thing to do in terms of winning, but from a more personal standpoint, it's no way to treat someone who has been a great player, teammate and citizen. He might opt to retire, but if he wants to come back, I would bring him back and allow him to retire a Jet following the 2017 season. He would bring stability to the OL. I agree on releasing Breno, Gilchrist and probably Decker. If Harris will take a pay cut to stay with the team, then I'd keep him, but he'd have to compete for his starting job. He deserves the same treatment as Mangold, but the Jets need cap space and faster/better players at LB. IMO he would be a tough decision. I think Revis should be gone. If the Jets go with a youth movement then I wouldn't bring Henderson back, but if not, I probably would. I'd definitely try to trade Richardson. If they could get a good young position player (preferably an OT, LB, CB or FS) or a 2nd round pick (maybe even a high 3rd), I'd trade him. I'd definitely seek to trade B. Marshall. With Enunwa, Peake, Anderson, J. Marshall, & D. Smith, plus a possible draft pick or FA acquisition, the WR corps should be sufficient. In an ideal world with a young QB in Petty or Hack starting, it would be best to keep Marshall, but if the Jets can get a 3rd or 2nd round pick for him, I'd pull the trigger on a trade. If not, then I'd keep him. I'd bring Folk back and let the former Duke kicker or another young kicker compete with Folk in camp again. If the Jets go with a youth movement (rebuild), then I'd probably let Folk walk, but might keep him unless I really needed the cap space. I agree that ASJ's audition is the rest of this season. If he can't get healthy and contribute, then he should go unless the Jets see some really positive signs with his getting his life and play turned around. Brian Winters has proven himself to be a quality backup if nothing else, and an adequate to pretty good starter. He should be re-signed. Williams hasn't improved like I hoped he would, but should be fairly cheap, so I'd probably bring him back. I think Tanner Purdum and Ben Ijalana should be brought back as well. I don't know what kind of impact Carter has had on STs, but don't think he's contributed much on D, at least not like I had envisioned that he would, so would probably let him walk.
yeah it's starting to sort itself out organically, with certain cuts becoming clearer as the weeks pass on. certain veterans will still be difficult decisions, as the team can't cut all of it's starters at once. so i agree on the interesting decision points regarding Mangold, Harris....even Marshall, Decker and Revis.. Have to see how the rest of the year pans out, and even their health status, before making a final determination on guys like that imo.. btw Henderson is also gone now too, which was a bit surprising.. one thing for sure, we need Olinman big time, especially T's..
if ijalana fills in nicely at LT that would be huge for us. and qvale can take over RT and breno and clady can both be gone. that would save a ton of money (14.5 million) assuming we trade richardson (8 million) that's 22.5mil in savings an only 1 mil in dead money. we'd be in good cap position and have an extra pick. we'll be 20 mil under the cap. Marshall loves it here maybe he'd take a paycut to stay to save a couple million more. we'd be in a good position. 22 mil to spend no major losses, an extra pick. williams and wilk at DE still, marshall and decker at WR with a ton of young potential at the spot (peake, anderson, smith, eneunwa, marshall) and we are looking at a top 10 draft pick. johnson filled in real nice for mangold, could be interesting there. ASJ should be healthy and cheap and is still young and gives us big potential at TE main issues would be CB, o-line depth, and QB
And in typical Jets' fashion, this is supposed to be a lousy draft for OTs. I think Mac deserves some criticism for not getting at least one OT in a higher round last year. I don't have much hope for Shell, but he was an inadequate way to address the OT position in what was a pretty strong draft for OTs.
I could see a big overhaul that's for sure ... Idk if you saw the article from Cimini but the Jets tried to trade up with the Giants to take Tunsil they were offering their second but the Giants wanted a 4th as well ... he mentioned if they were to make the trade we maybe end up with Tunsil and Prescott in the 4th instead of Hack in the second oh if only ...
