Please show me a screen cap of us running a 46 defense? Once you realize you can only find 3 maybe 4 times this entire season please log out and dont repeat in reverse. p.s pretty sure we have close to 30 sacks this season...........
the defense hasnt been figured out, theres just too many holes in the back end to be effective. milliner has slowly improved and hopefully next season he takes a leap but the cornerbacks have been less than stellar cromartie included so wide receivers are getting open. i think rex has done a pretty good job given the roster this season and i dont really see what people would be complaining about defensively other than the players getting beat like a drum routinely on the field.
You would think that it would get easier, that somehow seeing it coming earlier would help but it never does.
Bingo! Regardless of what alignments Rex uses with the Jets' D, all too often they simply don't work. That's what makes it so laughable when some fans claim the world will end if Rex is fired and that the Jets will never have a good D again. A few times a season, Rex comes up with a great game plan and beats the Pats or another tough team. Much of the rest of the time, opposing coaches eventually (if not immediately) figure out Rex's D and then Rex has no answer. He is not the defensive genius most Jets fans think he is. The 3-4 D alignment was designed with the OLBs as the playmakers, supplying the pass rush and stopping the run. In Rex's version, the OLBs are an afterthought and he tries to stop teams with his DL and CBs. I think his approach is flawed. It will do some things well (stopping the run) and other things very poorly (pass D). It worked when he had one of the top CBs in the game who could shut down half the field, but with a normal CB, not so much.
The nice thing about Rex's defense is it's not the blitzing and it's not the 46 and it's not the smoke and mirrors fronts. It's elements of all of those things combined and when it is working right it can make Tom Brady cry. That alone should be enough to keep it around for another year or two to see if the offense can join it on the hit parade. The Jets need a great safety in the middle of the field. They probably need another OLB, although lately Coples is making me wonder whether he can handle the role. He's gone from looking like roadkill to being a road grader in a very short span of games. Then they need basically an entire offense. That's the big deal.
I never said he was the greatest coach ever. Just tell me who the hell we could get to coach this shit roster with no QB. This is Tannys mess which is why he is gone. But really tell me WHO??
The dolphins defense makes Tom Brady cry when gronk isn't a factor. That's all Rex needs is great players at every position on defense to have a great defense? Shit. Let's lock him up for another 15 years now. I agree the offense is in need of a complete rehaul. I'm not sure rex is the guy to see over that job.
The one thing I will say is this: This is not baseball, EVERY SINGLE NFL team has talent. Everyone. Every starter for every team would at least make it as a backup on another team. People act like the teams without "talent" are playing with guys who dont even belong in the league. Every starter in the NFL is a legit player that would at least make it as a backup somewhere else in the league. This is not baseball where you have guys starting that would not even make another teams triple A squad. Pretty much every starter is making it on another team as a backup (unless they have issues or are just unwanted for a certain reason). This is why we see teams that are overloaded with this so called "talent" fail and at the same time, teams without any "talent" succeed. This league is close, there is a lot of parity especially because we play 16 games, every team has legit NFL players.
I still believe in Rex Ryan. I have seen this guy eliminate Manning and Brady from the tournament in back to back weeks whilst playing complimentary football. I think he can hang with anyone in terms of X's and O's. Unfortunately the players don't always execute the plan, and while it can't be denied he has factored into the poor drafting of late it's his job to coach what he is given and I think when we do get the right pieces in he we deliver a title. I understand the arguments against him, losing can't be tolerated, I get why some want him gone, but right now on this staff we have some proven guys (Rex and Marty) that will win a lot of games if given the right pieces. I'd rather roll with them than some fuckin unknown from Seattle whos working with All Pro talent -which will surely be his replacement.
This is the reason why I wanted Rex to succeed. Despite these 3 seasons, the overall body of work still exceeds most of this league outside of like 5 coaches. 4 playoff wins since 2009. Other than the Ravens, Giants, Packers, Saints, Patriots, I dont believe any team matches that. I just dont know though, I think patience ends up winning in this league, but at the same time you have to feed the pressure of the fanbase. Not easy.
I like what Barnes was doing before he got injured,I say bring him and Pace back .We can rotate them like we were doing before injury.And we have much more pressing needs they are solid cheap options
I agree with everything you said except the poor drafting thing.I wouldnt call the drafts poor.Wilkerson,Coples,Richardson all first rounders who are playing amazingly.Sure they have had shitty second round picks as of late and Millners looked better lately but the drafts have been ok but we need to see offense drafted in round 1 this year.Offense needs to be addressed in all phases this year FA and Draft .If we go defense in first round again my head may explode
Sort of agree that he had a good 5 year try - However, I cannot ignore the fact that he had Sánchez and Smith and that has to count for some discount I want to see what he can do with a competent offense.... I want him back
To me people are ignoring the fact that the scouting department is terrible and the fact that the 2009 and 2010 drafts weren't close to being full drafts. That is why they have no depth now. Anyone who thought Rex was going to take Geno a project rookie who most experts were right on (needed time to sit). I don't like the Campbell or Aboushi picks but maybe they will work out. Realistically the team was setting up for this coming off season with the cap space and draft picks. You'll know what woody and idziks plan is on black Monday. Realistically though there should not be a depth problem next year. I'd expect a new CB safety linebacker wide reciever tight end and offensive linemen. At a minimum the team should have 20 new players with 8 or 9 being impact guys. Realistically if you get rid of Rex you better not bring in a guy who is schematically different or you have square pegs in round holes on defense and starting over on offense. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
Horseshit. You could make a very solid argument that our defensive personnel is actually much better suited to a 4-3 scheme than the hybrid 3-4 Rex runs. Getting Rex away from the offense makes it better instantly as the person jamming the wildcat nonsense and ground and pound hyperconservatiism is gone. Rex is not a good coach. I am not even sure he is a great defensive coach. The league has caught up to his defense.
I don't see how Rex is calling plays on offense? Doesn't Marty control the offense? Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
he does, but many feel as though Rex has sneaked back into the jets offensive strategy because the methods used seen to fit Rex's ground and pound mantra at times. I believe this may have spurned from a lackluster passing game due to weaker WR's still trying to learn the offense at times and a QB out of his depth, but it fits a narrative in peoples heads that Ryan's style is outdated and we need an offensive minded head coach with an emphasis on the passing game to succeed. meanwhile ironically the NFC's best team the seahawks have managed to win with one of the lowest pass:run ratios in the league and a passing offense thats ranked below the top 20, making this thought overblown at best. (edit- 49'ers too) but that doesn't matter, point is he's not involved with the offense, its Mornhinweg's to control.
