I see your point that they have a good QB and we have crap. But did you see the fire they played with all night. They constantly made the right calls, and physically pushed us around all night. This is on the road, on a short week after an overtime game, in postseason crunch time. This is his first year with last years worst team in the league and he did that. Saleh doesn't have that pedigree yet. Its no shame to say a coach in his second year was outclassed by a SB winning coach. It goes way beyond QB. Also, its popular for us to say, "if so and so would have played here, we would have won". Thats not actually true. The entire complexion of the game would have been different. We love to focus on what ifs, that in reality would have changed the variables completely.
7:54 mark Rich Cimimi - "Do you still feel confident that Zach Is your QB of the future?" Robert Salah's eyes popped out of his head for 2 seconds... Robert Saleh - "Aummmmmmmm.. We're never going to quit on anybody... I've got confidence In all our guys." Doesn't take rocket science to read what he actually said there...
It's fine for Saleh to say these things in public, but in private he needs to make sure his players understand that he's not an idiot, and Zach is done here.
Yeah, that's my point. When you see how he reacted and answered that question. Even as a fan. You know he's done. He's done. It's more for us. They already know, I have no doubt about that.
I don't often Like your posts But not understanding why you didn't get like 100 here Are we not ALL hoping ZW gets banished and excommunicated at the same time??? Saleh is just rubbing salt in or HAD to say this per GM ...it's overwhelming hurtful to the old time fans and newbies Agree..avoid the question and don't say anything would have been tons better imo ..smh OTOH he could have offered "well Zach was disappointing tonight ..I am sure he can have more time to improve in the offseason...so much Better than implying we will "see" him soon
Most of us understand the optics, the big picture, the nature of the NFL. You rarely see a HC just straight come out throwing the QB or any player under the bus, even IF It's dumb obvious. This Is a professional sport, with a lot of eyes and ears looming about. You have to be careful, especially In this day In age, with what you say and do. Consequences are real, If you say or do the wrong thing, they may not be able to come back from it. The public eye Isn't just us fans. It's players, potential FA, future draft prospects, fans of other teams, owners, commish, so forth, etc... It's not as easy as throwing out whatever comes to your mind on a internet forum.
Lets put it this way. Why was James Robinson not active last night? It was the perfect game to start him. Ideal in fact, and Bam hasn't been the same since he hurt his ankle. Instead, we got 12 rushing yards from our backs combined. Was this just to save a 6th round pick from becoming a 5th - with our season on the line. Seriously? This all goes back to Brooks original post. We continually make amateur mistakes.
"As long as they're here, as long as they play for the Jets, we are going to put our heart and soul into helping these kids." Did he even say Zach's name? I swear that's the way they were talking about Darnold before he was traded.
I didn't even catch that one. You are right. Yeah, that's the writing on the wall and he did talk like that with, Darnold. Ahhh. Good catch fella.
He doesn't look right. I really don't think his knee Is the same and I'm surprised he passed the physical If that really Is the case.
All of these are true, but Zach isn't ready - if he ever will be - to be an NFL QB. And if he is, it won't be on this team. It was obvious that the team quit on him right out of the gate. I've never seen anything like that in 60 years of watching football.
The thing is that it isn't about "law of averages" or "luck", it's about having people that know how to properly evaluate QBs, AND develop them. I'm not going to blame the entire failure of Zach on the CS, but they bear a major share, sorry. No, I'm not saying they did nothing or didn't try their best, but if you and I went out there and "tried our best" to play pro football we'd still fail. It requires having people that KNOW how to develop QBs, and IDK when the Jets last had anyone like that. It's a spectacular failure spreading over decades. Which is why I now advocate for signing or trading for a proven vet QB over drafting and developing one.
Disagree. Pedersen & Co have made a huge difference for TL. I'm not saying they would've succeeded with Zach, but I bet Pedersen would've done a lot better with him.
About Joe Douglas potentially taking the fall for the way the season ended. How Saleh has already showed enough for the Johnsons to be their guy, and that Zach being drafted and being put back in after being benched was on Douglas, not Saleh. Joe should be concerned abut his job, more or less that.
