Well go get a job in the league and implement your knowledge and all knowing wisdom on those small minded idiots in NFL front offices. I hate backseat drivers and arm chair general managers.
I never said I was "all knowing." You're the one speaking as if you know everything and that what I suggest isn't even in the realm of possibility or reality. Pull the log out of your own eye before you talk about the splinter in others' eyes. If you don't know what a copycat league the NFL is and how it's not known for real intelligence, then I can't help you. I'm glad to know you hate me. Hope that makes you feel better about yourself.
NCJetsfan is right. Just cause you draft a QB in the 1st round, that doesn't necessarily mean you give up on the guy you drafted in the 2nd round a year ago. It's simply competition, and trying to get better at the most important position in the NFL.
Dude Teddy is 10x the QB Geno is. When you question whether "they deemed" Geno was in their plans, you are basically dismissing what Idzik was protecting. His failure of a pick. That was a failure by him that he needed to protect in order to convince people he wasn't incompetent. If he had no ego he would have said to himself "I fucked up last year, I can right that this year by taking a superior player at the most important position in all of organized sports". Fuck John Idzik. _
I never spoke as if I knew everything. You're the one calling NFL personnel all sorts of names because they don't have your view on things. Your strategy is unconventional and the reason you don't see it isn't because they aren't smart, the QB position isn't like most positions. Most teams if they are in love with a guy regardless of where they drafted him aren't going to draft a QB the next year in the first round. 1st round picks are too valuable, a team would prefer to develop their current guy. If they wanted to add competition then they bring in a veteran or take a flier on a mid round guy. I don't hate you btw.
Regardless of their reasoning they didn't feel the need to draft a QB the next year. Whether they were protecting their pick or they loved Geno and wanted to develop him.
You're right. Idzik gambled, lost, and got himself fired. On topic, if Petty ends up being something special, that'll be great for all of us. And while I'm not going to hold my breath, I hope he beats the odds as long as he's wearing hunter green.
Doesn't really mean much, but it's an interesting bottom of the roster signing. His college career was pretty similar to Simms, pretty non-existent.
exactly - in the last few games of that season people seem to have forgotten that Smith was playing really well (wasn't he like the 5th highest rates QB in the final chunk of the season?) and giving us all hope that he could develop into a quality starter and so they really weren't looking for a QB in the 2014 draft
I don't see how you draft a QB in the first round just to add competition. A first-rounder at any position is expected to develop into a starter and with a QB the scrutiny is always higher and the schedule shorter. Pick a first-round wide receiver who doesn't become the best receiver on your team and he can still play a role and catch some passes. Draft a QB in the first round and unless he becomes the starter you have struck out and GMs don't get the luxury of missing too many times at QB. The pressure to develop the new No.1 pick into a starter will inevitably mean you derail the development of your existing second-rounder. Just by taking a new guy in the first round shows you are moving on, or at least trying to.
Because it increases the chance of finding your future QB. If both turned out well, you could always trade one and recoup assets.
JC Copeland was signed off his try out as well. He's a huge FB, not sure how that plays into the offense. I guess Jenkins didn't impress!
No one said anything about taking a QB in the first round just to add competition. Of course when you take a QB in the first round you expect him to develop into a starter, but that doesn't mean you have to stop trying to develop the 2nd rounder. Teams need more than one good QB. Injuries are a fact of life in the NFL. Teams need a quality backup. As we all know, there aren't enough quality starters to go around in the NFL. As I said, he could develop into your starter or if the guy you took in the 2nd round the year before develops too and beats him out, then it's a win-win. You have two quality QBs and can always trade one of them and get good compensation. What's to say in such a scenario that the 2nd rounder didn't develop at least partially because you brought in the 1st rounder to push him? NE has taken QBs and then traded them for draft picks. Ron Wolf did that numerous times with GB and got a lot of high draft picks in return. I disagree with the bold. You're not necessarily moving on or even trying to if he's the BPA at your pick in the 1st round. You're just taking the BPA and trying to improve your team, and trying to insure that you have a quality starter. The more quality prospects you have at a position, the better your chances of finding a quality starter. When the 1st round pick is a better prospect, already NFL ready and more advanced than the 2nd rounder, then you'd have to be nuts NOT to take him imo. The 2nd rounder (Geno) was the best QB prospect they could find in 2013. The idea that they should just stop looking for a starting quality QB in subsequent drafts in a situation like this is just plain nuts to me, especially when Geno had struggled so badly, and his football IQ is so questionable. It's just mind boggling to me that some of you guys are so narrow minded and hideabound in your thinking, especially when one considers how many years it has been since the Jets have had a quality QB. How many times do we have to be disappointed and struggle along with lousy QB play holding us back? One of the definitions of "insanity" is to keep doing things the same way and getting the same result, yet expecting the results to change. Sooner or later if you're going to break the cycle, you have to try something different, take a different approach and see if that gets a better result. The odds of finding a quality starting QB are MUCH greater taking one who is rated as a first rounder than one who is rated as a 4th rounder.
IMO you misread what he said. He said: IMO the second part of that sentence is the key, which I have italicized for emphasis. Yes, it adds competition, but the main thing is that one is trying to get better at the most important position in the NFL, i.e., the QB position. How is one doing that? One is trying to get better by adding a better prospect (a 1st round rated QB vs a 2nd) AND in adding another quality prospect to the position. The law of averages says that the more quality prospects one takes to address a position of need, the better one's chances of actually succeeding in filling that need. If I'm mistaken, I'm sure that he will correct me, but I think that's what he was saying.
