If this is a win-now team, why are you so unfazed about possibility of missing on both Fitz and RG? Are you really that confident that Geno would be adequate? Better arm, I know, but please remember 15-yd drop backs followed by sacks, throwing into triple coverage, not reading Ds.....Are you sure he is over this?
Carpenter was by far the best guy on the line last year Well, you could count in Calvin Pyror too if you're only counting guys we drafted, Maybe Jace and Enunwa too? and maybe Mike Captano who was showing a lot of burst and had a sack before he got injured last year. If you want to count the YOUNG free agents we brought in last offseason you could count Buster and Carpenter both are 26-27ish We still have a lot of holes, but we still have some young talent
You can't lump Fitz and RG3 together. One had success in this system last year. The other had success in 2012, not a bit since. Missing out on Fitz is missing out on a guy that has proven he can win with this group of players and coaches. Missing out on RG3 is missing out on a guy that could maybe have a career resurgence and overcome two major injuries. Big difference.
Ah. Skrine and Pryor for sure. We have youth but we have way more veteran talent entering the end of their prime. It's a win-now team with some nice pieces coming down the pike.
Agreed, I prefer Fitz by a long shot. But I'd take either Fitz or RG over Geno so I don't want Jets to miss them both.
It might also be that they just gave Fitz a "drop dead" date - either sign the deal we've offered you by X or we're signing RG3 and moving on.
I love how people are convinced he's a bad guy. Sometimes things go bad and guys are able to rebound and right things under better circumstances. It happens all the time. How did things work out with Brandon Marshall here? Some learn by their mistakes too. I'd like Fitz back. But would welcome RG. I'd take him all. day. long. over. gee-no. In every way. I don't think Geno's bad guy,I don't hate him, and I wish him well. Let him go get a fresh start too. Somewhere else
Again, another article that is saying stuff that wasn't said. No where in Kimberly's article did it say we didn't make an offer.
Well, considering how closed lipped things have been, do you think Schefter could be a little late on it? he has been before on things.
"Robert Griffin III's visit with the Jets lasted through Saturday and included a dinner Friday night with coach Todd Bowles, league sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter. The team was impressed with Griffin, sources told Schefter, although they have downplayed the visit as "due diligence" out of respect to their contract talks with QB Ryan Fitzpatrick." According to Schefter, so the Jets are waiting to see what they do with RG3 on Fitz decision.
I mean it's pretty obvious no? Like I already said, it makes no sense for either team to make a deal right now.
I don't think there will be much difference in terms of success on this team Fitzpatrick vs. RGIII. They both have their pros and cons. RGIII has more ability IMO and is younger. Fitzpatrick has his obvious pros here. I'd be fine with either but I'd sign up for which ever one comes cheaper. RGIII can do what Fitz did here IMO
It's just hard for me to put faith in a guy that hasn't played meaningful snaps in two years and hasn't played productive snaps in three years.
I bet RG3 will be the Jets QB by the end of the week, just because he left without a contract does not mean that they can't fax paperwork to the agent as the week goes on. Who expects a contract to be put together during a 2 day visit, when it was just an informal visit?
...3 years ago In 2012 he had 20 TD and 5 INT The next two years combined he had 20 TD and 18 INT. Then he was wearing street clothes for the entire next year. So those career numbers a highly skewed by one outlier year
Non withstanding the venom that some have against RGIII, justifiable in their eyes or not there are some points that need to be made in his behalf. IMHO of course. 1- It is very difficult to be successful as a rookie QB when your coaching staff is unwilling and totally incapable of playing to the players strength. I venture to say no QB in need of "on the job training" could have succeeded with that sorry ass organization and collective game planning. They went out of their way to make things hard for him, and limit his natural capabilities. 2 - What we got out of Fitz in 2015 is probably as good as it will ever get....and might never reach that level again. His limitations have been severely minimized by Chan's clever schemes, but we are maxed out. People are game planning against it. On the other hand there is no telling how much better RGIII can be under the tutelage of Chan, and the professionalism of Todd Bowles 3- I venture to say people have significantly exaggerated RGIII inability to read defenses. 4- RGIII in the right system can be far more lethal than Geno and if he can at least partially master Chan's scheme far more dangerous a threat than Fitz 5- When push comes to shove, an overpaid Fitz on the books for the next 3 years can be much more devastating to our long term goals than a small- med risk RGIII with a far higher ceiling. He could very well be the equivalent of Brandon Marshall at the QB position with the right environment. So I'm not quite willing to accept Fitz as the only solution. Not yet, and not at the cost he perceives himself as worthy of.
