His work ethic and character are rarely lauded. Usually this gets blamed on Ron Prince, maybe he deserves the blame, but Freeman was not known as a workaholic in college. Freeman is too similar to Ratliff to waste a pick on. Even if he is taller and stronger armed, its not enough to project him as being better than Ratliff. And Ratliff had a better college career. Ratliff went undrafted because: Didn't start a lot of games, a problem that isn't hurting Sanchez. Grabbed a woman's crotch twice in a nightclub. Played in the same spread offense that made notorious bust Alex Smith look good in college. Of those reasons the one the NFL cared the most about was the last one. AS got drafted before the NFL got suspicious of spread offense QBs, Ratliff got drafted afterwards and got hurt by it.
I would rather have Freeman McNeil back on the team. I kinda hope we go with Moreno if he falls to us. I also like the idea of possible moving up in the second.
I never implied this but whatever man, since you are throwing names out here is a list just to put in perspective of quarterback draft selections over the past ten years. Anyway my thing is this, if a guy can help us win I'm all for it, I never try to study this draft business because I know people who are getting paid to scout these guys knows a hell of a lot more than me a Jet Fan. No need to get irate, bro we're all fans here and want the best for our team. Year No. Round Pick Player Name Team College 2008 1 1 3 3 Matt Ryan Falcons Boston College 2 1 18 18 Joe Flacco Ravens Delaware 3 2 25 56 Brian Brohm Packers Louisville 4 2 26 57 Chad Henne Dolphins Michigan 5 3 31 94 Kevin O'Connell Patriots San Diego State 6 5 2 137 John David Booty Vikings USC 7 5 21 156 Dennis Dixon Steelers Oregon 8 5 25 160 Josh Johnson Buccaneers San Diego 9 5 27 162 Erik Ainge Jets Tennessee 10 6 20 186 Colt Brennan Redskins Hawaii 11 6 32 198 Andre' Woodson Giants Kentucky 12 7 2 209 Matt Flynn Packers LSU 13 7 16 223 Alex Brink Texans Washington State 2007 1 1 1 1 JaMarcus Russell Raiders Louisiana State 2 1 22 22 Brady Quinn Browns Notre Dame 3 2 4 36 Kevin Kolb Eagles Houston 4 2 8 40 John Beck Dolphins Brigham Young 5 2 11 43 Drew Stanton Lions Michigan State 6 3 29 92 Trent Edwards Bills Stanford 7 4 4 103 Isaiah Stanback Cowboys Washington 8 5 14 151 Jeff Rowe Bengals Nevada 9 5 37 174 Troy Smith Ravens Ohio State 10 6 31 205 Jordan Palmer Redskins Texas-El Paso 11 7 7 217 Tyler Thigpen Vikings Coastal Carolina 2006 1 1 3 3 Vince Young Titans Texas 2 1 10 10 Matt Leinart Cardinals USC 3 1 11 11 Jay Cutler Broncos Vanderbilt 4 2 17 49 Kellen Clemens Jets Oregon 5 2 32 64 Tarvaris Jackson Vikings Alabama State 6 3 17 81 Charlie Whitehurst Chargers Clemson 7 3 21 85 Brodie Croyle Chiefs Alabama 8 5 15 148 Ingle Martin Packers Furman 9 5 32 164 Omar Jacobs Steelers Bowling Green 10 6 24 193 Reggie McNeal Bengals Texas A&M 11 6 25 194 Bruce Gradkowski Buccaneers Toledo 12 7 15 223 D.J. Shockley Falcons Georgia 2005 1 1 1 1 Alex D. Smith 49ers Utah 2 1 24 24 Aaron Rodgers Packers California 3 1 25 25 Jason Campbell Redskins Auburn 4 3 3 67 Charlie Frye Browns Akron 5 3 5 69 Andrew Walter Raiders Arizona State 6 3 21 85 David Greene Seahawks Georgia 7 4 5 106 Kyle Orton Bears Purdue 8 4 20 121 Stefan Lefors Panthers Louisville 9 5 9 145 Dan Orlovsky Lions Connecticut 10 5 16 152 Adrian McPherson Saints Florida State 11 6 39 213 Derek Anderson Ravens Oregon State 12 7 15 229 James Kilian Chiefs Tulsa 13 7 16 230 Matt Cassel Patriots USC 14 7 36 250 Ryan Fitzpatrick Rams Harvard 2004 1 1 1 1 Eli Manning Chargers Mississippi 2 1 4 4 Philip Rivers Giants North Carolina State 3 1 11 11 Ben Roethlisberger Steelers Miami (OH) 4 1 22 22 J.P. Losman Bills Tulane 5 3 27 90 Matt Schaub Falcons Virginia 6 4 10 106 Luke McCown Browns Louisiana Tech 7 5 16 148 Craig Krenzel Bears Ohio State 8 6 20 185 Andy Hall Eagles Delaware 9 6 22 187 Josh Harris Ravens Bowling Green 10 6 28 193 Jim Sorgi Colts Wisconsin 11 6 36 201 Jeff Smoker Rams Michigan State 12 7 1 202 John Navarre Cardinals Michigan 13 7 16 217 Cody Pickett 49ers Washington 14 7 17 218 Casey Bramlet Bengals Wyoming 15 7 24 225 Matt Mauck Broncos Louisiana State 16 7 47 248 B.J. Symons Texans Texas Tech 17 7 49 250 Bradlee Van Pelt Broncos Colorado State 2003 1 1 1 1 Carson Palmer Bengals USC 2 1 7 7 Byron Leftwich Jaguars Marshall 3 1 19 19 Kyle Boller Ravens California 4 1 22 22 Rex Grossman Bears Florida 5 3 24 88 Dave Ragone Texans Louisville 6 3 33 97 Chris Simms Buccaneers Texas 7 4 13 110 Seneca Wallace Seahawks Iowa State 8 5 28 163 Brian St. Pierre Steelers Boston College 9 6 19 192 Drew Henson Texans Michigan 10 6 27 200 Brooks Bollinger Jets Wisconsin 11 6 28 201 Kliff Kingsbury Patriots Texas Tech 12 7 18 232 Gibran Hamdan Redskins Indiana 13 7 27 241 Ken Dorsey 49ers Miami (FL) 2002 1 1 1 1 David Carr Texans Fresno State 2 1 3 3 Joey Harrington Lions Oregon 3 1 32 32 Patrick Ramsey Redskins Tulane 4 3 16 81 Josh McCown Cardinals Sam Houston State 5 4 10 108 David Garrard Jaguars East Carolina 6 4 19 117 Rohan Davey Patriots Louisiana State 7 5 2 137 Randy Fasani Panthers Stanford 8 5 23 158 Kurt Kittner Falcons Illinois 9 5 28 163 Brandon Doman 49ers Brigham Young 10 5 29 164 Craig Nall Packers Northwestern State (LA) 11 6 14 186 J.T. O'Sullivan Saints California-Davis 12 6 33 205 Steve Bellisari Rams Ohio State 13 7 5 216 Seth Burford Chargers Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 14 7 21 232 Jeff Kelly Seahawks Southern Mississippi 15 7 24 235 Ronald Curry Raiders North Carolina 16 7 25 236 Wes Pate Ravens Stephen F. Austin 2001 1 1 1 1 Michael Vick Falcons Virginia Tech 2 2 1 32 Drew Brees Chargers Purdue 3 2 22 53 Quincy Carter Cowboys Georgia 4 2 28 59 Marques Tuiasosopo Raiders Washington 5 4 11 106 Chris Weinke Panthers Florida State 6 4 14 109 Sage Rosenfels Redskins Iowa State 7 4 30 125 Jesse Palmer Giants Florida 8 5 18 149 Mike McMahon Lions Rutgers 9 5 24 155 A.J. Feeley Eagles Oregon 10 6 9 172 Josh Booty Seahawks Louisiana State 11 6 14 177 Josh Heupel Dolphins Oklahoma 2000 1 1 18 18 Chad Pennington Jets Marshall 2 3 3 65 Giovanni Carmazzi 49ers Hofstra 3 3 13 75 Chris Redman Ravens Louisville 4 5 34 163 Tee Martin Steelers Tennessee 5 6 2 168 Marc Bulger Saints West Virginia 6 6 17 183 Spergon Wynn Browns Southwest Texas State 7 6 33 199 Tom Brady Patriots Michigan 8 6 36 202 Todd Husak Redskins Stanford 9 6 39 205 JaJuan Seider Chargers Florida A&M 10 7 6 212 Tim Rattay 49ers Louisiana Tech 11 7 8 214 Jarious Jackson Broncos Notre Dame 12 7 28 234 Joe Hamilton Buccaneers Georgia Tech 1999 1 1 1 1 Tim Couch Browns Kentucky 2 1 2 2 Donovan McNabb Eagles Syracuse 3 1 3 3 Akili Smith Bengals Oregon 4 1 11 11 Daunte Culpepper Vikings Central Florida 5 1 12 12 Cade McNown Bears UCLA 6 2 19 50 Shaun King Buccaneers Tulane 7 3 16 77 Brock Huard Seahawks Washington 8 4 6 101 Joe Germaine Rams Ohio State 9 4 36 131 Aaron Brooks Packers Virginia 10 5 18 151 Kevin Daft Oilers California-Davis 11 7 21 227 Michael Bishop Patriots Kansas State 12 7 33 239 Chris Greisen Cardinals Northwest Missouri State 13 7 39 245 Scott Covington Bengals Miami (FL) 1998 1 1 1 1 Peyton Manning Colts Tennessee 2 1 2 2 Ryan Leaf Chargers Washington State 3 2 30 60 Charlie Batch Lions Eastern Michigan 4 3 25 86 Jonathan Quinn Jaguars Middle Tennessee State 5 3 30 91 Brian Griese Broncos Michigan 6 6 19 172 John Dutton Dolphins Nevada 7 6 34 187 Matt Hasselbeck Packers Boston College 8 7 43 232 Moses Moreno Bears Colorado State
Size: See JaMarcus Russell Work Ethic: His footwork NEVER improved in three seasons at K-State and neither did his accuracy. He was an up-and-down/hot-and-cold quarterback over his entire career. Character: Seriously? The guy made a HUGE deal about turning Nebraska football team around and then he de-commits and goes to an in-conference foe. That's not character. Bill Callahan has the right to bash this clown... Experience: He does have experience as a starter, but he doesn't know how to win. This is a guy that was supposed to come in and turn his team around...but they never got better with him as a starter: 2006 - 4-4, 2007 - 5-7, 2008 - 5-7 -- Freeman was 13-18 as a starter...and some of you guys are trying to bash Mark Sanchez for going 14-2 as a starter?
He's not a QB who should be drafted in the top 40. Those picks are reserved for QB's who have performed at the highest levels in the NCAA. Freeman has accuracy issues and he makes questionable decisions with the ball under pressure. Given that he played in a pro style offense in college it's unreasonable to assume that he's going to come into the NFL and things are going to fall into place for him based on the change in offensive philosophy because there won't be much of a change for him. The hype around him right now is that he's going to be a Roethlisberger-type QB. Ok, you can stop the train right there because Roethlisberger completed 66%, 63% and 64% of his passes in a three year career while Freeman completed 52%, 63% and 59% in his three years of play. The two players are not even remotely comparable in terms of what they were likely to do when they hit the NFL. Freeman should probably be drafted in the mid 2nd round, where his chances to succeed balance off better against the value expended. Even then mid 2nd round QB's tend to be a waste of a pick.
