Rex Ryan is a GREAT coach

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  1. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    One of RRs major lacks besides not knowing anything about O is he cannot even assess what a "good player" is

    In that regard

    See Connors
    See Sanchez
    See Sporano & probably most of all our coaches who are just as incompetant as Tony is

    NOBODY but RR either hired or picked the playeres mentioned :sad:
     
  2. If your biggest gripe about Rex is his evaluation of a fullback taken in the 5th round nearly 4 years ago..I'd say Rex is doing pretty good.
     
  3. Jets1035

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    There is alot more than a fullback he took in the draft. Rex is Completely to blame for this POS called an offense. He is reponsible for all of it. He is the HC.
     
  4. Really?

    So he's the one who drafted the disappointing players? He's the one that created the injury bug to the offense's skill players that started day 1 of training camp & lasted all year long? He's the one who told Sanchez to throw all those picks? Alrighty then.
     
  5. Jets1035

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    Other than Holmes, and Keller who else was injured? When they were playing, we were still inep on Offense. You could tell durring preseason this was going to be a tough year. He helped pick the players, he failed to make adjustments afterwords. Durring press conferences, all he talked was defense. Durring the Titans game, Mark threw a few pic's . No effin adjustments at all, he didn't dress the QB that was effective. Then brought in the other durring the worse time. He is responsible for all of the teams play, not just the defense. It's about each game, you do what it takes to win. Not watch it go all to shit, and ignore the problems, and then lie to us fans a out what's wrong. With Rex as our coach, we are playing for draft pics this weekend, and next year. Don't talk to me about Keller and Holmes is the reason we are 6-10. It's much deeper than that.
     
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    Rex Ryan doesn't buy the groceries, nor should be responsible for picking players in the draft. That should live and die by the GM and the scouting department. Tannebaum has failed to develop a system here and has failed to get better at scouting players.
     
  7. The offense has had an injury bug since the start of training camp. Holmes,Keller,Schillens,Kerley,Cumberland & Hill all missed time before the season even began. Josh Baker who was supposed to be a H-Back Hyrbid was lost during TC. Go back and read through the daily twitter/blog feeds done by all the columnists in August...the offense was rarely if ever at full strength. When you are installing a new offense w/ different terminology,assignments & schemings that is devastating.

    Then we got to the season. We saw Holmes, Keller, Cumberland, Dedric Epps(signed off streets/Lost for season),Kerley,Hill,Schillens, Gates(who was signed off the street to replace others injured)Powell, & Mcknight all miss multiple games. We aren't talking about a couple injuries. We're talking about a MAJOR injury bug across the entire offense.

    The original starting group of: Holmes/Hill/Kerley/Schillens- Keller/Cumberland Played all of 16 snaps together.Many of those snaps came against Buffalo which was the best offensive performance all year.

    The current starting WR's for this team(Edwards & Gates) were signed off the street several weeks into the season. You can't possibly overlook that notion.

    Injuries are not the only thing to blame. When an offense performs as bad as this one..it is never just one thing. But to call the injury concerns minor is just completely off base. It has been a major MAJOR issue from the get go.
     
  8. Jets1035

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    So if we just bring everybody back healthy, find a new guy to run the offense things should be fine? Rex had nothing to do with bringing in new players? He is not the reason we spend over 65% of our draft pics on defense? We have enough talent to win. Mark will be fine next year as long as Keller, Edwards, and Holmes play? It will be interesting to find out. I think that's what the orginazation thinks and that's what we are going to get next year. Think we will be over .500 with that? We shall see.
     
  9. xxedge72x

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    Only four teams in the NFL have scored less points than the Jets.

    Also, the Jets have allowed the third most points in the AFC East.

    Still, the injuries this year were brutal. It's mostly for that reason I believe Rex still deserves the benefit of the doubt on another go around.

    At this point I wouldn't call him great. I don't really know what to call him.
     
  10. TheJetChase

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    Rex Ryan is too busy trying to coach an NFL team during the college football season to go around and watch these players play. It falls on the scouting department. They inform him of players he should be interested in.
     
  11. Not necesarily. No doubt the offense needs work, specifically from a philisophical perspective.In this league you have to be able to play from behind. A team built solely for the ground & Pound does not have the ability to play that way. They need to improve the pass protection up front & they need another game changer at the skill spot.

    My original point was that although the offense was absolutely horrible all season long...the injuries did in fact play a major, MAJOR part from the beginning of TC onward. Laughably,The media has never made mention of this fact.Hard to win when you are implimenting a new system & you have new starters signed off the street almost every single week
     
  12. Biggs

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    What exactly makes Sanchez an embarrassment?

    The only reason Mcelroy can even get a start in the NFL is because Sanchez and the NY Jets O has been that bad. The reality is to even suggest Mcelroy would have an opportunity to start 4 years in the NFL based on his talent evaluation is embarrasing. The only reason Mcelroy is even game day active is because the Jets brought in Tebow to run Tony Soprano's wildcat and he can't run it.

    What's foolish is to believe Mcelroy with more NFL tape on him is going to be a game changer for this team. Mcelroy is at best an NFL backup.

    What's retarded and embarrasing is your hatred of Mark Sanchez having a very bad year has you thinking otherwise.
     
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    Totally awesome analysis! Durrrr, he's the head coach, he's to blame. End of story. Nobody else affects the offense at all! :rofl:

    I don't think Holmes and Keller played in a single game together this year.. expect maybe half of the Bills game. Both are difference makers for us. Our WR core was a bunch of scrubs this year.
     
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  14. Jets1035

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    What I meant is that Rex pushed to draft more guys for the defensive side. I feel Rex didnt put enough emphasis on the O side. We never made adjustments durring the games. There were times when we ran the ball effectivly, and when Sprano got away from that we exposed Mark pretty bad and then the turnovers started piling up. Rex could have stepped in and changed that. He endorsed bringing in Sprano. None of it is his fault. :rofl:
    He just coaches the defense, and picks who goes out for the coin toss? I forgot, he has to talk to the media as well. Your right, Rex is great I'd give him and Sanchez another extension. Bring on the SUPER BOWL!:drunk:



     
  15. Wahoo

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    A smart football guy once said you are what your record says you are. Ryan is 38-32. No where near great, not even really very good, just mediocore. The troubling thing is that 18 of the 32 losses come in the last 2 seasons (I'm assuming a loss to Buffalo). Good or great coaches steadily improve teams. Ryan's team has steadily gotten worse.
     
  16. xxedge72x

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    How many coaches in Jets history are +.500? It says more about our franchise than Rex himself.
     
  17. SI_Jets_Fan

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    Rex is a GREAT DC.

    HC, not so much.
     
  18. Cman68

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    and there lies the problem with using Rex's record against our pathetic history Edge. Our history says we've sucked with a few years of mediocrity in between so when we say Tanny/Rex has had this wonderful, historical run over the last 4 years, we have to be careful as we're comparing it to historical lows in achievment in the NFL.

    I wonder just how far Jet fans are willing to lower the bar...
     
  19. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    Rex is a loser, just like his GM.
     
  20. And thoughout that history the organization & fan bases attitude has always been to clean house & hope the next guy up is a miracle worker instead of allowing a program to develop. Whether the naysayers like it or not stability IS important in the NFL. The "Fire fire fire" crap doesn't and hasn't gotten us anywhere in over 40 years.
     

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