Rex Ryan: I would take Daniel Jones over Sam Darnold

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  1. dmw

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    https://nypost.com/2019/09/23/rex-ryan-i-would-take-daniel-jones-over-sam-darnold/

    The former Jets coach called Jones “the best quarterback in New York” the morning after Jones turned in an impressive starting debut and led the Giants to a 32-31 comeback win over the Buccaneers, meaning he would take him over Sam Darnold.

    “The reason I’m saying it is because I think his fundamentals are much better,” Ryan said Monday on ESPN’s “Get Up.” “I love Sam Darnold, don’t get me wrong. I still think he’s going to be a tremendous player. But I think this guy right here [Jones] has got competitive greatness in him. I think he’s going to be a superstar.”
     
  2. footballfundamentals

    footballfundamentals Well-Known Member

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    Did he say the same thing about Sanchize?
     
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    macbk Well-Known Member

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    I think Sam comes off as fairly competitive...
     
  4. K'OB

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    Silly fat C*nt
     
  5. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    I'll take it as a compliment. He's one of the worst QB talent evaluators around.
     
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    But is he tattoo worthy?
     
  7. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Kissing NY Giants behind now I see. He could have his eye on the job if he thinks Shurmer is on the hot seat.

    Fraud.
     
  8. dmw

    dmw Well-Known Member

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    I don't have a lot of confidence in Rex as a talent evaluater, but Jones had a great first game.
     
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    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    This is a damning indictment of Jones. I love Rex. I think he's a great coach and knows a ton about football. But the one thing he is terrible at is evaluating quarterbacks.
     
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  10. legler82

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    Rex is right about Sam’s fundamentals but he’s making too big a deal about it. Sanchez had great fundamentals; so in the end what does that really mean? I do think Sam’s fundamentals will hold him back from being the best player he can be if he doesn’t clean them up.
     
  11. ColoradoContrails

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    You know who else had their "fundamentals" criticized? Patrick Mahomes. 'Nuff said.
     
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    Hmm...Pat has RARE arm talent that makes his fundamentals almost moot. Sam ain’t working with that. That off the back foot shit for no reason ain’t going to fly.
     
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    I'm more worried about the fact he said I love Sam and he's going to be tremendous. I'd be more encouraged if he thought he was going to be shite.
     
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    Agreed. All I'm saying is that fundamentals can be overrated. Elway didn't have great fundamentals either. Granted, another rare arm talent, but still. In Sam's case, yes, fundamentals are more important, but he still makes things happen anyway. I guess what I'm saying is that give me a guy who knows how to use his body to succeed, even if it isn't "by the book".
     
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    I love Rex, but this is just a typical media proclamation to generate buzz.
    There is no substance to it.

    Jones has played one game.
    And if the Kicker makes his PATs or chip shot FG, the headline would be more like "Jones gets finished off by Gay"!
     
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  16. Its all about him throwing w a good base underneath him. Doesnt have to be perfect but at least w both feet in sync. When hes granted a clean pocket for at least 1.5 seconds hes much more consistent w his mechanics bc hes able to release from center w proper base & carry it through the release of the ball both from pocket & off schedule.


    It is essential for him to have an OL that at least can anchor against initial surges on the interior to allow him to get his feet right.That isnt happening from the OL right now. Sam will not have success w.o this.
     
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  17. Stagman

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    What ever this loud mouth poor excuse of a HC has to say, doesn't interest me at all. The only success he had with the jets was thanks to the previous regime roster. After his second year the team he helped build were lousy. I remember him saying that after seeing Sanchez in a private workout, he told Tanny to go and draft this kid.
     
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    And we all know what a QB guru old twinkle toes Rex is... almost as good as Gase is turning out to be, actually.
     
  19. legler82

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    I’m not going to blame the o-line for Sam’s bad mechanics. He had it at SC and still now. He’s a gifted thrower off platform; he just needs to understand that’s it’s a skill to use only when needed.
     
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  20. HomeoftheJets

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    Rex is bad at evaluating QBs, so I don't care what he thinks. But it's possible Jones is the better QB. He's more athletic than he appeared in college, and he has better technique than Darnold. On the other hand, Darnold has a special level of coordination that only a rare few have, but we'll see if he can actually take advantage of it.
     

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