Rex Ryan: Geno Smith Figured Out How to Win

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  1. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Why do you even bother? Some fans are really clueless.

    Anyone know what Bill Walsh's record was after his first couple seasons? Off with his head!
     
  2. displacedfan

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    I don't see what that has to do with my post, a winning record is a winning record by NFL standards.
     
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    Blocker has confirmed Smith showed improvement.

    Discussion over.
     
  4. Big Cat

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    You can argue all you want that Geno was "unimpressive" in the last 4 games (I think he was very efficient) but the real effect on his improvement wasn't his play itself, it was the confidence that stemmed from his play. You might think that he was barely above average in those 4 games, but he thinks he was playing exceptionally, which is all that matters.

    Confidence is by far the most underrated aspect of professional sports. It's vital that the 4 games he played his best in were the last 4, since because of that he's spent the entire 6 month offseason reminiscing about his growth and "spectacular" play. When he was playing like shit and dragging the team down, it's highly likely that he had feelings of "do I belong here?" or "is this stage too big for me?" especially as a rookie. He probably looked around the huddle and felt as if everyone hated him. I've read quotes from him saying that he was "just trying to fit in" and "knowing his place". Now that he finished the season strongly, he's had a chance to completely scrap that.

    Now, he truly feels as if it's his team. I've read countless articles about his leadership and newfound command of the huddle, and I especially loved one that cited how he immediately got Eric Decker's number from Idzik when he was signed. He's doing whatever he can to elevate both his level of play and the team's and instead of trying to "know his place" he's creating his own place as a leader. Those games were so vital because if he had just put together another string of mediocre games, he could've easily just moped around in his preparation instead of stepping up like he has.

    The effect of confidence isn't just off the field; it's just as prevalent during games. A quarterback with confidence (Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger) will trust his instincts and throw the ball with authority and own every throw. Geno's struggles last year came when he was hesitating; he would look at his receiver for an extra second to make sure he was open because he was so nervous of throwing an interception, and by that time he had completely telegraphed his intentions. After 6 months of momentum building up inside of his head, hopefully he can come out and make all of his throws with conviction, it would really bring together the precision timing of the west coast offense.

    So you can use whatever meaningless stats you want to discredit those last couple of games; the 6 months worth of confidence are what should provoke Geno's growth, not the games themselves.
     
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    i was just thinking that. Our d-line kinda disappeared at the end of the year, that second dolphins game Wilk was invisible, Miami's o-line is pretty good after the bull shit happend , took a few weeks to gel though
     
  6. The Dark Knight

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    Yeah, wasn't specifically talking to you, just a thought I had. I am glad Jets fans are so loyal to Rex but if I was the owner no way he would still be head coach. Good thing I am not the owner, right guys? It is not about his records either. It is about the disastrous way the 2011 season ended, then the team got even worse in 2012. I would have fired Tannenbaum and Rex and started fresh.
     
  7. displacedfan

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    Yeah, okay, that makes more sense if you are speaking generally.
     
  8. The 1985er

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    Rex deserved a chance to redeem himself.
     
  9. Barcs

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    TDs and passer rating is FAR more important than YPA, are you kidding me? If the short passing game was effective that day, how is that a fault of Geno's? If he averaged 5.8 ypa, that's a first down every 2 downs. He comp% was decent and he had 3 touchdowns. It was his 2nd best game of the year and his only GOOD game against a good defense. Don't forget that we had no deep threat whatsoever.
     
  10. Big Blocker

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    The article I quoted did not only include ypa stats. Beyond that, AYFKM?

    As anyone who knows football understands, me not speaking to your knowledge on such point, your average Qb is expected to have a higher ypa than that. Do we really need to understand why?

    You thought 20 for 36 for 214 yards was a solid performance. In fact it is below average.

    101 also seems to think doing better than flat out awful is acceptable. It isn't.

    And you guys complain when I call you homers. Well, it is amusing.
     
  11. nyjunc

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    I think I find out why you struggle so much w/ this football stuff, you don't actual read what people write. Where did I write he was THE BEST?

    Try reading, it will help you- at least a little bit.
     
  12. Barcs

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    You're right BB, that is below average, I read it as 26/36 for some reason, but his passer rating was NOT below average, and passer rating factors in TDs, TOs, COMP%, yards and everything else, basically a summary of his performance. 91 passer rating is above average, nearly top 10. Nobody's saying Geno is great, and I'd be tickled pink if he could actually average that rating, but it is a big improvement over what he previously had done against decent defenses. That's all I'm saying. BTW, the average passer rating allowed by Cleveland was 84.1, so Geno did better against them than many other QBs, and was definitely better than the average QB against them.
     
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    The season long stats for Cleveland do not reflect their late season collapse, whcih was duly and extensively documented in the article I posted.

    I appreciate Qb rating as a stat, but it has flaws.

    Anyway, camp has begun. We shall soon see if Smith has really improved, and how much.
     
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    the previous 2 weeks before they played us they lost in the last minute at NE(the most difficult place to win in the league) and lost a close game to Chicago that they led in the 4th qtr.
     
  15. BomberJet

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    When the interviewer comes back with a question :" ....so will Geno Smith have a pro bowl year, this year?.." I cringe at the thought of Rex
    thinking what he really wanted to say in response to that ridiculous pose.
     
  16. cval

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    Geno had the most important stat of all in those last few games Wins. With that being said there is a ton to be concerned about with what MM had to do make him somewhat successful. That is not sustainable in a 16 game NFL season. Geno needs to take a big step forward for or we will see a lot of Mick Vick.
     

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