He was a DC one year in NE, 2005. He did not fare well. That is why I was surprised the Jets were so high on him. Yr-Rank, ppg 2003- 1st, 14.9 ppg 2004- 3rd, 16.2 ppg 2005- 17th, 21.1 ppg 2006- 2nd, 14.8 ppg 2007- 4th, 17.1 ppg
I really believe that. And that's how Eric got the job with the Jets. But I admit my long time dislike of Rex is coming out.
That's got to be the biggest bunch of bs I've ever heard,Mangini a better DC then Rex?Why is Mangini the 49ers tight ends coach and Rex can get whatever DC job he wants if he wanted to go back that route.Our defense was solid all year and we didn't have one probowler we finished 6th overall with a scrub filled secondary
if you really believe that you need to get your head checked. on what basis? there's no quantifiable metric you can use to argue that.
Woody hired Mangini because the trend that year was to imitate the Patriots and Eric was the hot assistant. After watching Rex's D for six seasons I think in spite of the stats he is not a defensive genius. If you ask me who is the smarter coach in terms of Xs and Os: I'll take Eric. He was fired by Woody off of a 9 W season after he had to change Qbs in training camp.
I remember pointing this out at the time. Now, to be fair, as I recall, the Pats had a ton of injuries in 2005 and it was a year following a Superbowl win (Superbowl winners almost always regress statistically). Having said that, I don't think there is any evidence for Mangini being an above average DC, and certainly no evidence to suggest that Mangini is a better DC than Rex. And, for the record, I do NOT think Mangini was a bad HC. I don't think he was anywhere near as bad as most Jets fans do. I actually wanted Mangini retained after 2008. But, a better DC than Rex? No way.
Everyone who has read my posts over the last couple of months knows I am not a Rex guy. Furthermore, I always thought Mangini was under-appreciated here and was a much better HC for us than he was given credit for. Having said that, there is no rational argument for Mangini being a better DC than Rex.
I saw Rex's defense for six years. It was way overrated. A lot of glitz but undisciplined. I'll take guys playing in a system (not getting big time stats) but not giving up big plays.
Rex's defenses were better tackling defenses than Mangini's, they gave up fewer points than Mangini's, and they gave up fewer yards than Mangini's. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Rex has a lot of flaws as a HC and there a plethora of legitimate ways to knock Rex, but knocking his ability to coach defense just isn't one of them.
Rex had a ton of high draft picks esp on the line which is the main area you have to build on to have a good defense. From there the secondary and linebackers. Other teams made better adjustments to secondary deficiencies. I don't think one elite DB would have made much difference because the scheme sucked. Plus the coaching. His players often blew assignments which leads to big plays. How many times did you see a DB 20 yards off a play. Even a lower tier corner is not 20 yards off a play, their coverage skils are much better than that. It indicates a break down. And there were lots of them. I don't remember that happening with Mangini who did not have the kind of talent Rex had on D.
I agree with some of your points, but the bolded isn't entirely fair. Look at the difference in defensive production from 2008 (Mangini's last year) to 2009 (Rex's first year). The defense was visibly better in almost every conceivable way (The "eye test" was conclusive) and the 2009 defense wasn't THAT much more talented than the 2008 unit.
I don't think I'm being unfair to Rex but it's possible. His D gives up big plays all the time. His players love him so much because he lets them freelance instead of playing a stricter brand of football. If you play within the system there are fewer breakdowns. If your players hate you for it too bad. "You play to win the game."
There is truth in this. And I definitely think people have a tendency to overrate Rex's defensive prowess, but I think you are fooling yourself if you don't think he's an upper-echelon defensive coach. And for the record, I've never been crazy about the blitz-crazy scheme.
I am so glad he's out of here. I hated the entire package. The braggadocio, the circus atmosphere, the leaks to Mehta. I thought while likable he was disingenuous to say the least.
Falcons interview a minority canidate, indicating Rex may be hired by the Falcons very soon: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ew-in-atlanta-could-spark-the-hiring-process/ Good for him, Im happy for him if its true, im sure he will be a lot happier to with this has turned out, it should spark him again, that team can be good if it has a defense.
