has there been a coach in the history of the league to win 40% of there games over a 4 year span with no playoffs and kept there job? it wasn't for the sake of starting over it was for the sake of winning.
he only had 2 losing seasons and look at the healthy rosters each team had. he had one of them in playoff contention in December. There is a reason he is being sought after by numerous teams right now.
Yep and in 2012 he lost his best defensive player, best wide receiver, best tight end......Revis missed 14 games, Holmes missed 12, Keller missed 8......
I'm sorry guy, for some reason as I was reading the responses, I thought it was a response to the Atlanta and Niners openings. I'll ban myself for a day...;
I really think his best 2 coaching jobs were 2012 and 2013. the way 2014 went is the way those years should have gone.
They play in a dome and G&P is not going to be as good there. Rex's next team is going to G&P just like the Jets and Ravens did. 50/50. Chicago is perfect for that type of approach. Let Jay Cutler throw 450 passes instead of 560.
Marvin Lewis in Cincy. 25-38-1 from 2007 to 2010. 39.8% wins. Bengals are in the playoffs 4 years running now. I do think Lewis is a more well rounded coach than Rex at this point but he's had a decade on the job in Cincy to get things right.
It is? How many coaches that we fired have turned out to be Superbowl winners with another team? Pete Carroll (almost two full decades later)? Who else? Since your argument seems to always be that we should embrace stability (even if it is decidedly mediocre) at all costs, why don't you quantify this argument for us.
Ok, in the 3 non-playoff years they were 15-28-1. They were 1-11-1 after 12 games in 2008. They were 2-11 after 13 games in 2010. And yes, I missed the 4 years out of the playoffs clause, apologies, but clearly Lewis had a worse 4 years than Rex just did. It's not really applicable, because it's only 3 years and it was in a different era, but Chuck Noll went 12-30 with the Steelers his first 3 years as they climbed up out of 2 decades in the muck.
Yea winning the division buys a little time. The main point I was making was that it's bullshit to say we made a change for the sake of change. we made a change because we weren't winning and we also weren't getting better. if the jets had made the playoffs in 2013 rex is probably still the head coach of the jets right now.
We made the change because the Jets looked like shit on the field AND the sidelines for a lot of the season. You can't run the kind of sloppy sidelines that Rex was running and lose games and keep your job. Entitled players don't keep their head in the game all the time. The Jets were full of entitled players by last season. Guys who thought they had an in with Rex and were safe to just sit back and do their job. How many times did the Jets have 10 or 12 men on the field or the wrong package in? How many times did the coaches not know where they needed to be at a crucial moment? One way to tell whether you have a focused sidelines is by looking at the special teams performances. Those are the guys who really need to be on the ball because they only get 10 or 12 chances a game to make an impact. When the ST's are sloppy it's an indicator that the overall coaching has slacked off some.
what does that have to do w/ anything? what does Rex have to do w/ Joe Walton or Bruce Coslet? Rex is a top 10 HC in this league and got us closer to a SB than any coach since Weeb. if that is mediocrity sign me up any day.
Yeah it sucks to see him go but truthfully, I think it will work out better for both sides. I believe Rex might be able to take over the Falcons and have immediate success, while the Jets might be able to bring in a proper GM, who will hire the proper head coach (so I hope). And Rex will never admit it but if he lands in Atlanta or San Fran, I guarentee you he will be much happier than coaching the 2014 Jets. I believe it will light a fire under him and we will see more of the 2009-2011 Rex, rather the humbled guy who lost the players that helped him win. I believe San Fran is really ideal to, the GM has full control so Rex will be coaching what he is given, and he will be given good players.
Top 10 based on what? How many non-winning, non-playoff seasons in a row are we supposed to put up with because he won with Mangini's team? What players outside of d-line is Rex developing?
What are you talking about? YOU were the one who wrote: "so stupid to let a really good HC go, you build around those guys. you don't start over for the sake of starting over but this is why we never win." Again, YOU were the one who explicitly wrote that we "never win" because we start over the sake of starting over instead of hanging on to guys we should have kept. I'm asking you to quantitatively support that statement with meaningful examples. Yes, but he also is 46-50 overall, 18-33 in his last 51 games, and has had four straight non-winning, non playoff years during a period of time that was twice as long as the two glory years you constantly reference. I wrote this to you last week and you failed to respond, so I'll write it again: The mistake you constantly make with Rex (and you do the same with Sanchez) is that you let your admiration for his two very successful seasons cloud your assessment of his overall body of work.
since 2009: playoff wins: John Harbaugh 9 Jim Harbaugh 5 Mike McCarthy 5 Pete Carroll 5 Sean Payton 5 Rex 4 Bill Belichick 4 Coughlin 4 John Fox 3 Mike Tomlin 2 Gary Kubiak 2 Mike Smith 1 Chuck Pagano 1 Andy Reid zero 6th in playoff wins since entering the league and he probably had the least amount of talent to work with overall compared to these other coaches. Not bad and again I think 2012 and 2013 were his best coaching jobs even know they were 6-10 and 8-8.
