Revis trade thread (Update: Revis to Bucs for '13 1st and cond. '14 4th)

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  1. NYJalltheway

    NYJalltheway Well-Known Member

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    This is getting ridiculous. I'm sick of all the media hype about him being traded. I wish we'd just get a deal done, and move on, or sign him already.

    Like seriously does anybody have any doubts that he's not going to be an elite CB again? Of course he will. This happens to many teams every year. A player gets hurt, traded for BS value, then he comes back and plays just fine for some other team. I'm getting sick of waiting.

    I check this thread every single day, multiple times per day, and all I see is everyone debating, arguing, getting off topic, etc. I just want some actual news. I wish there was a separate thread for actual information coming out.
     
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  2. ajax

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    Revis stepping onto the field mid-season can only play man-to-man. Nobody plays defense like Rex. Everyone else mixes in zone coverage & there's quite a few teams that play more zone than man coverage.

    There is no way any team with playoff aspirations is gonna leave a huge gaping hole at CB and just hope they acquire Revis mid-season. If they didn't sign a FA then they're gonna draft a CB.

    Trading for the long-term? No. Teams are trading for maximum production this season AND an opportunity to negotiate a long-term deal. Nobody is interested in a partial season of Revis where he knows nothing about their defensive scheme + an opportunity to renegotiate.

    Also, you're comparing Luck to Revis? Franchise QB and potential franchise QB are worth more than everyone else in the league. That includes a shutdown CB.
     
  3. ajax

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    On the money. For better or worst, if Jets start this season with Revis then they finish this season with Revis.
     
  4. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    First of all, multiple meaning how many? Some news suggests TB was offering only one pick.

    Now OF COURSE if in dealing Revis the Jets got two first round picks and more, that makes the deal more attractive. But that the Jets would get that is hardly a given.

    But the other answer to your question is given the Jets' history with draft picks, Revis is better than draft picks. Would you trade Revis for another Kyle Wilson and Ducasse?

    A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.
     
  5. Leicester Jet

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    The only problem is that the bird can fly away for free after next season - and I'm damn sure he will, to the highest bidder!
     
  6. Br4d

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    Revis is going to be looking for a contract based on the old wage scale. I'm increasingly pessimistic that the Jets will be able to trade him or re-sign him. It's going to take a team like the Bucs to bail us out.

    They're going to need some time before the trade to negotiate with him to see if they can find a fit.

    Alternately I'm thinking the Jets just wind up with Revis playing out the string and then see if he really wants to be a Jet when the market next winter and spring isn't what he thought it was going to be
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    I really don't mind speculation, but ftr that is all this post is.
     
  8. Organized Chaos

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    Per Rotoworld:

    According to SI's Peter King, Jets owner Woody Johnson is "categorically against" extending Darrelle Revis' contract.

    Original Source (Sports Illustrated - Peter King):

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nf...palmer-kevin-kolb-monday-morning-quarterback/

    The Jets are in deep think mode over the possible trade of the rehabbing Darrelle Revis. And though it's certainly tough to consider trading the best player on your team -- and it's a deal I wouldn't do; I would pay the man -- I think at the end of the day the Jets will do it at least two days before the start of the April 25 first round. (Can't be on draft day, obviously, because the Bucs will need to do a thorough physical exam before agreeing to the deal, which is likely to contain one 2013 draft choice.)

    The Jets could do the right thing and satisfy Revis' long-term contract demands and have the best corner in the league (at least the best one east of Seattle, if Richard Sherman is to be believed) on their team through the rest of his prime. But no one sees owner Woody Johnson agreeing to pay Revis $15 million or so per year. Johnson, I'm hearing, is categorically against extending Revis. So let's extrapolate.

    The Bucs, assuming Revis passes the physical, are willing to surrender a first-round pick and either a second- or a third- to acquire Revis. Those picks would either come both in 2013 or 2014, or one in each draft.

    If Revis leaves in free-agency -- the Jets cannot franchise him after the 2013 season, by contract agreement -- the most the Jets would get is a likely third-round compensatory draft pick.

    So what would you rather have, Jets fans:

    • Revis on your team for one rebuilding season, getting the 97th overall pick in 2015, or ...

    • Revis dumped for, say, Tampa Bay's first-round pick this month -- the 13th pick in 2013 -- and Tampa's second-rounder in 2014. If it's mid-round, that'd be the 48th overall pick in 2014.

    One pick, 25 months from now, between the third and fourth rounds? Or two picks in the next 13 months, both likely in the top 50?
     
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  9. jilozzo

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    for that too happen - his agents would need to have their heads in the sand for a very long time.

    they HAVE to be closely monitoring every CB signing since revis last signed.

    it would be a closed minded gamble on revis' part to approach it accordingly.

    i think if they even get a whiff of a team willing to pay 12-13m/year they will do anything possible to orchestrate a trade in the near future.
     
  10. Barcs

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    The problem with rushing into a trade, is that assuming Revis returns to form, his value will get higher the longer we wait. It's not like we have much to lose by waiting until the season begins or is close to it. If we deal him we should hold out until near TC or potentially even later when he's able to demonstrate his worth in games. If the Jets just rush into a trade to get it done because they are scared about missing out on one, it will be SOJ mentality. If trading him is the route to go, I'd much rather see a blockbuster type deal when his value is high. Right now we're lucky to get a 1st, but if we wait until a few games in, we could get 2 firsts plus more when he shows he's still the same shutdown corner. So either we make the Bucs over pay now, or we tell em to go fuck themselves and then wait until later and get that same increased value from somebody else. I think that's a smart strategy.

    I'd still rather find a way to keep him. He's a big part of our D, and he still hasn't played with a single elite or even semi good linebacker. If we can improve our pass rush via draft and FA, Revis value also skyrockets, because when you have heavy QB pressure, he's more likely to throw that interception, especially with Revis and Cromartie on the prowl.

    What does that even mean? Categorically? These beat writers go out of their way to word things in ways that are deceptive. I wouldn't be surprised if Woody said nothing even close to that.
     
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  11. NYJETS4life24

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  12. Big Blocker

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    Woody Johnson should just die.
     
  13. Poeman

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  14. Organized Chaos

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    You called it man. I thought maybe Woody was holding a bit of a grudge but would come around if the money was right. The quote by King makes it sound like Woody just doesn't want the guy period.
     
  15. Poeman

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    For a guy that owns Johnson & Johnson, he is one arrogant ass
     
  16. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    What sparked this comment?
     
  17. Donttasemebro

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    Revis trade during the draft?
    April, 1, 2013
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    By Tim Kavanagh | ESPN.com
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    With free agency winding down, it's been a little while since there was anything of substance to pass along on the Darrelle Revis trade front. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- the only known suitor, and certainly the most logical one -- have held off on pursuing any other options in free agency, which has led some to reckon that it's "Revis or Bust" for them at the position. Though things have gotten awfully quiet, they may pick up again soon.

    Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune opines that the Bucs may be in a waiting game right now on the Revis deal. It's been reported that the Jets want the Bucs' first-round selection in this year's draft (No. 13 overall), while the Bucs would prefer dealing their first-rounder next offseason (which would likely be lower), as well as an additional piece or two. Cummings notes that the Bucs may decide to wait until the night of the first round of the draft, see who is taken with the first 12 picks, and then make the decision to pull the trigger or not. It could be that they don't like any of the players available at that spot, and so giving up the No. 13 pick for the NFL's best CB makes sense. On the other hand, one of the top-rated players on their board could slip to them there, and they'll simply make that pick.

    Another possibility: if the Bucs don't like any of the players available at No. 13 and the Jets balk at their trade offer for whatever reason, Tampa could look to trade down a few spots and still target one of the CBs available in this year's crop. There is a chance that Tampa will emerge from this year's draft with multiple CB prospects, and adding them with Eric Wright (whose fate remains up in the air) would lessen the need to make the Revis move. That wouldn't close the door on a trade, but it would give them some insurance if nothing came to pass.

    For the Jets -- who are involved in a multi-year rebuild -- dealing for picks in the 2014 draft might make more sense, especially if the Bucs are indeed willing to offer both their first- and second-rounder in that event, as was reported by Sports Illustrated recently. But either way, expect things to heat up again in the next few weeks.
     
  18. NYJets17

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    Draft Geno at 9
    trade Revis for 13th
    Draft Tavon Austin
     
  19. ArmandJ

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    Keeping Revis with us is like having a great kitchen in the projects of New York. It's nice, but it really won't help in the long run.

    If he wants to be a Jet for life, he'll take a 5 year 50 million dollar deal and be done with it.
     
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