Revis trade thread (Update: Revis to Bucs for '13 1st and cond. '14 4th)

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  1. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    A healthy Revis is not worth $12 million. If the Jets had an offer on the table of a #2 this year and a 1 next year or this year's 1 from TB with some other mid-late round picks thrown in and they passed on it, there will be hell to pay.'

    Revis will not be a Jet in 2014 and the Jets will get nothing for him. Take the trade, take the picks, take the cap hit and rebuild with players who are not as selfish and who play more important impactful positions than CB.
     
  2. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    I still think if you get 2 firsts, even if Revis would sign for 12-13 million, you have to consider trading Revis.

    But the market for CB is really low this year, we should use this as a huge negotiating point. If Revis is willing to stick around for 10-12 million, he's not straining the cap as much as expected. THe only downside is the risk of him holding out if he gets healthy or some corner goes on the market and gets overpaid
     
  3. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    All of this is correct.
     
  4. CurbYourEnthusiasm

    CurbYourEnthusiasm Well-Known Member

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    Peter King's take over at SI:

    "The Jets have a vexing problem with Darrelle Revis, but if GM John Idzik plays his cards right, he could at least partially save face for trading the franchise's best player by getting no less than first- and third-round draft choices from Tampa Bay for the problematic cornerback, a source close to the negotiations told SI.com.

    In fact, the source said, if the Jets are willing to take both picks in 2014, Tampa Bay would likely deal its first- and second-round picks for Revis, even though the Bucs are not sold that he can come back and be 100 percent after 2012 knee surgery.

    Three things are apparent in the wake of the NFL meetings in Arizona, where nothing got done between the Jets and Bucs on the Revis front: Tampa Bay is the only serious bidder for Revis. The ball is in the Jets' court on what to do next. And the Bucs aren't going to go much further, if at all, to try to get Revis.

    Tampa Bay GM Mark Dominik on Wednesday night and the Jets, through a team spokesman this morning, both declined comment on the fragile state of talks between the two teams.
    The Jets, in discussions with Tampa, have apparently been stuck on acquiring the Bucs' first-round pick this year, as well as an additional choice, which would likely come in next year's draft. That would give New York the ninth and 13th picks overall this year.

    But is that really the smartest way to go for the Jets? I don't think it is. I think it's much smarter for New York to try to get both Tampa picks in the 2014 draft, and to push for the Bucs' top two picks next season. With the likelihood that this is Rex Ryan's final season as head coach, and the certainty that New York will try one last time to make Mark Sanchez work at quarterback this year, it doesn't make much sense to draft a quarterback in the first round. What happens if the Jets pick, say, USC quarterback Matt Barkley, and the new coach next year -- if there is one -- isn't a Barkley guy? The Jets would be wiser to go for a 2014 first-rounder, giving the team two ones with the likelihood that the quarterback class would be stronger next year than this one. If they had to move up in the draft to get a passer, they'd have good ammunition."


    More of this story is located here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nf...york-jets-tampa-bay-buccaneers/#ixzz2OCDssWko
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I rarely agree with Peter King these days but I think he's right about a 1st and a 2nd next year being preferable to the 13. The value chart says the 13 is worth more but the Jets circumstances say the picks next year are.

    That is unless the Jets have a QB they really like on the 9. Then you could make the argument that the 13 turns into a playmaker to raise with that QB.
     
  6. BroadwayAaron

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    This would be an amazing deal. AMAZING.
     
  7. Axel3419

    Axel3419 Well-Known Member

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    I think a 2013 4th or 5th and a 2014 1st and 2nd makes it fair. (Especially because we don't know where Tampa will be picking in 2014 - they may have the 32nd pick, making it a terrible deal without a pick or two this year.)
     
  8. johnnysd

    johnnysd Well-Known Member

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    We should make that deal today. Wonder if it is Rex influencing the stalemate for a first this year.
     
  9. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I stopped reading right there. YOu are a Revis Hater and it is now official.
     
  10. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    i dont agree with the 2014 pick over 2013 pick sentiment AT ALL ... if we acquired #13 overall from the bucs, there would be no shortage of teams that would give us a 2014 #1 for the pick. hell, there might be a few teams willing to give us a 2014 #1 for our second round pick ... the difference is, with the #13 overall this year, we'll have the option of seeing who is on the board before we decide if we want to move the pick for a #1 next year

    the idea that acquiring the 2014 #1 is somehow a better move is mind boggling to me
     
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  11. jilozzo

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    no question 2014 1st and second rounders work for me - heck even the first and third, with the 3rd becoming a 2nd possibly - is fine.
     
  12. MoWilkNYJ

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    How great would it be if we ended up with a top 3 pick though? I'm sure that one year ago the thought of acquiring the Chiefs, Lions, or Eagles 2013 first round pick wouldn't seem as appealing considering we wouldn't know that they tanked. Of course the idea of getting the Colts first rounder would seem like a great deal then and that turns out to not be a great pick. If we end up with the Bucs first in 2014, I think we'll all be hoping they fall hard.
     
  13. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Does anyone think the Bucs will be a playoff team next season with what they have currently? They have the Saints and Falcons in their division. 3 teams from the NFC South?
     
  14. Organized Chaos

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    If we compare this to the champ bailey trade, we would be asking for doug martin and a #2.
     
  15. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    I htink the idea is if we wait til 14, we get their 1 &2. If thats the casea 1 & 2 next year is better tan 1 and maybe 4 or 5 this year.If we can get their 1 & 2 next year, I would carry Revis on my back to Tampa
     
  16. Harpua

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    Or if we compare it to the Hershel Walker trade, we should be asking for multiple firsts. Or if we compare it to the Roy Williams trade we should want a one, three and five. Or if we just realize that every trade comes with its own special set of circumstances we can talk about what is realistic.
     
  17. Organized Chaos

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    They split with Atlanta last year and both games were close. They played one close one with the saints that they lost, and were blown out in another.
     
  18. Organized Chaos

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    Was Hershel Walker a cornerback was Roy Williams? I was just offering some historical reference of what a pro bowl CB goes for, no need to be a dbag.
     
  19. Falco21

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    Wow, Doug Martin would be ridiculous!! Him and a pick I would sign up for any day!

    It's not gonna happen but I can only dream LOL
     
  20. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    http://m.nypost.com/p/blogs/jetsblog/jets_could_revis_buccaneers_first_ReHmtSuXYDzsvgdblarNlJ

    This article states the bucs are willing to give up their 2014 1st & 2nd round picks for Revis... What do you guys think f that?

    Me, personally, I'd like it. Would prefer to get a pick this year as well, but even with Revis I don't see Tampa Bay doing better than last in their division next year, so they should be relatively high picks in a draft with some high-end QB talent
     

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