how's this... You nibbling bulls pizzle. You wormy tongued toad. Thou clay brained stuffed cloak bag of guts. Thou knotty pated fool, thou whoreson obscene greasy tallow catch! Thou face art that of a cream faced loon. Thou art a boil and a plague sore , an embossed carbuncle in my corrupted blood. Thou art the son and heir of a mongrel bitch. I bite my thumb at you sir!
If anybody clueless it you. Do you even know what the Bird rule is? Before you come at me know what your talking about. Tell me what what you just said has anything to do with the BIRD RULE?
I can't say I ever heard a fellow Pats fan call him overrated. From 2008-2012 (and from '09 until his injury, in particular), Revis played the position as well as I've ever seen anyone play it except maybe Deion. And obviously he's more physical than Sanders ever was. Don't know if last year was more about scheme or more about coming back from the ACL, but it'll be very cool to see what a coach like Belichick does with a guy with talent like Revis. They'll be a lot more aggressive I think, at least.
Dude, "embossed carbunkle"? WTF? I can accept the rest of that taunt--but that's going over the line. _
I have to disagree with that immensely. Revis absolutely translated to wins and on the Patriots,who already have a good offense, it will translate more. In 2009, all we had was a defense and got to the AFC title game. No Revis in 2009 means no playoffs and no playoff wins, and possibly the same in 2010. We had a lot of nailbiters in 2010, that would have been losses if Revis hadn't been shutting down their best receiver. I find that statement a bit insane. We definitely don't beat the 2010 Colts or Patriots in the playoffs without Revis.
Terrible post. The running game was top 5 in both years you quoted. In 2009 the running game avg 172yds a game or 1st in the league. In 2010 the running game avg 142 yds a game or 4th in the league. Total offense in 2009- 20th Total offense in 2010- 11th Revis was exceptional in both seasons, world class, top of his position. The offense also had a pulse, unlike your post indicates, providing the league with its #1 rushing franchise in the 2009 season
This is just inaccurate. Revis could have been an average CB and the Jets still would have gone 8-8/9-7 in 2009 and 10-6/11-5 in 2010. If Mark Sanchez was a great QB they would have won several more games but they weren't going to lose less with that great offensive line and the running game they had. The reason the Jets won the number of games they did in 2009 was the defense was solid and the Jets limited Sanchez damage to the offense when they had too to win games. 2010 was a more mixed effort but again they'd have been better off with a great QB and average CB.
Yeah, that's obviously true that we did have a decent running game those years, but saying Revis doesn't equate to wins, is silly. We survived tons of those games in 2009 by the skin of our teeth because our defense ensured that teams rarely scored or even moved the ball. In 2009, the D was #1, in 2010 it was like #3. They were a greater factor in our success than the offense in both years. Without Revis, we probably go 7-9 at best in 2009 and 8-8 at best in 2010. Revis was a big factor. We had a good running game, but the only year the offense was respectable was 2010, and even then they had struggles. They went through most of the season without a 1st quarter TD. Sanchez had a horrible completion %. Obviously a great QB will always have more impact than a great CB, but if you have both, you are golden. I've always under ranked the Patriots and rooted for their collapse each and every year, but with Tom Brady AND Revis, that team is going to dominate. There's no way to cherry coat it. Last year they squeaked by in the majority of their wins with Brady going above and beyond. It's going to suck. Don't let that Revis hate cloud your judgement. He was a difference maker for us, and he will be for the Pats, as much as it pains me to say it.
Revis shut down a murderers row of top receivers in 2009, I have a very hard time believing that the Jets would have finished at .500 or above that year with only an average CB playing his spot, especially since the jailbreak blitzes Rex was sending always had a safety in the mix.
Exactly. There is NOT a chance the Jets make the playoffs that year without Revis. Not a chance in hell. I also don't think they get out of Cincinnati with a win in the playoffs that year without him.
Brad Smith, Thomas Jones, and Shonn Greene disagree. Of course, Revis was sick in 2009 and 2010; but he also created massive headaches with his constant holdouts. The position is not worth $16m on the cap, Revis isn't even worth $12m on the cap. That's at least 3 quality players. It's 2014, not 2010. Thanks for the 2008-2010 seasons, it was cool. Also, thanks for Sheldon Richardson. Have fun going down on dicks in New England.
Look at 2009 again more closely. The Jets weren't winning tight games that year. They were losing those games. They were winning games kind of decisively for most of the year and losing the tight games. A CB doesn't change that. A better QB does. Put another way: the Jets outscored the opposition by 112 points in the regular season and went 9-7. That's just a very unusual distribution of points vs W-L.
the nfl has already copied the idea of the salary cap and the rookie wage scale from the nba ... and they will probably implement the nba's max contract model during the next cba
You're assuming those close games would have been close if Revis had been average, and you're propping your argument by adding the QB stipulation. Remove the QB part, your original statement said that the Jets would have won 8-9 games in 2009 if Revis had been average. We're approaching ludicrous speed.
Sure let's take a closer look at 2009. My argument is that Revis equates to more wins, so I will pick out a few games where Revis put us over the edge. Game 2 vs Patriots: W 16-9. Let's see the Patriots only score 3 FGs? Randy Moss goes 4 for 24 with no TDs. Revis has a score saving pick at our own 17 yard line. Had that not happened, this game could have gone to OT and then who knows. Moss had no impact Game 3 vs Titans: W 24-17. Another one score game. Can't put this one directly on Revis but the defense held strong down the stretch. In the 3rd quarter the score was 21-17 Jets. Following that, here is what happens: Titans 3 & out, Jets 3 & out, Titans 3 & out, Jets FG, Titans 3 & out, Jets 3 & out, Titans 3 & out, Jets TO, Titans TO, Jets 3 & out, Titans 4 & out. The defense (in which Revis is a huge part of) won this game. Many of our 2009 games were similar. Game 12 vs Panthers: W 17-6. The Panthers were a pretty mediocre team but were 4-6 when they played us. Revis had 2 picks, 1 returned for a touchdown. The offense scored the same amount of TDs as Revis. Steve Smith: 1 rec for 5 yards? Game 13 @ Buffalo: W 19-13. 1 score game. Revis with a crucial pick late in the forth to essentially end it. TO goes 3 rec for 31 yds. But Revis doesn't equate to wins so TO was just having a bad game, right? I'm going to say we lose 3 of 4 of those without Revis and that's being generous. Without Revis shutting down #1 WRs, Rex wouldn't have been able to blitz nearly as much. Even 1 loss means no AFC championship game that year. Yeah I hate Revis now too, but he makes the defense better. Even though TB's offense fell apart AND they used Revis wrong, the passing defense improved immensely from the previous year when they added him. The Patriots, who already have a mediocre passing D are adding a shutdown corner. They are going to be a very difficult opponent for any team. It's like adding another Tom Brady on D.
This is a very good post Barcs. I'm glad someone took the time to point out individual games like that and I agree with everything there. I'm certainly past Revis now, I'm to the point now where I will feel comfortable hating him now that he plays for a division rival and all, but I think people took him for granted here for a long time. I think it's silly to pretend he's not a great, impactful player just because he doesn't play here anymore or make some very vague remarks about how he doesn't directly impact games / coupled with some generalities about his position. That's the type of stuff you see from fans of loser franchises like Buffalo or Cleveland. Having said that I hope the Jets bring it and kick his ass this year when we face those chowderheads! side remark - reading "collision low crossers" made me cringe when I read the revis parts and thought about how we let him get away. He's a professional through and through.
