Revis Not to Go on IR (Update: Officially IR'd)

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  1. Barcs

    Barcs Banned

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    Welp, that does it for the season. With Revis occupying a roster spot, we are donefor. No way we can overcome the possible addition of a 6th CB.
     
  2. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    THANK YOU. Jeez, talk about groundswell.
     
  3. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    EDIT: Nevermind I'm not going to get into it.
     
  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Why not just play with 22 and a couple of kickers then, that's all you really need, right?
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I don't even know if I am interpreting it correctly, but that was how I understood it.
     
  6. NYJFan10

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    It's utterly laughable to suggest they won't spend, what - a million dollars or whatever the vet minimum is to bring in a replacement? When their payroll is upwards of like $120 million, and they're most likely going to have to spend that money anyway in two weeks or whenever Revis' surgery is.
     
  7. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    don't bother....
     
  8. TurkJetFan

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    Yeah I think that's correct. The Steelers did this with DeCastro and I remember reading something along these lines, bc the Steelers were the first to designate this type of IR tag.
     
  9. TurkJetFan

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    one would think, but im starting to get the impression they are going to try.

    keep in mind the cap $ in free space rolls over to next year, a year in which the Jets are pretty cap strapped despite a lot of money coming off the books.
     
  10. Barcs

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    We're talking 1 roster spot, not 30.

    They should wait until after the surgery before they IR him. Right now, they simply don't know. If he gets the surgery and they say he won't be ready until after March, then we put him on IR. Not sure if you realize this but there are always 3-4 roster spots that aren't solid. That's just the way it is. It's called wiggle room. The fact that people are outraged over this is absurd.
     
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  11. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Not laughable when you look at next year's cap. Anyway I think they could find somebody better then Joe Fuckin McKnight, Isiah Trufant or Ellis Lankster either through trade or somewhere else to replace Revis if they wanted to..don't you? Then why aren't they?
     
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    Okay, but that's different than saying they're too cheap to fill the hole. They may decide to save money because next year's cap is so bad, not because they're being cheap.
     
  13. Skicats

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    Because you are losing a roster spot. Does this mean that they will be drssing one fewer player every week, until they make the decision, I don't know. If so, I don't like it.
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Let's put this in another light for a second...your BEST player goes down for the year and YOU DO NOTHING??? Really? What team would ever do that? What possible reason would you use to do that? Are you throwing in the towel in week 4? They are doing NOTHING, not even bringing in a third string kicker...nobody does that, nobody.
     
  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    No, it certainly doesn't mean they'd dress one less player. You get 53 roster spots and 46 active spots on game day.

    This is a couple week thing, not a season long thing. If Revis comes out of surgery and the doctor gives him a shot of returning for the superbowl the Jets likely use the "to return" IR spot on him. If the doc says what everyone is expecting, they just IR him and move on.

    Bottom line is that they lose a roster spot for a couple of weeks. If it becomes a big issue, which is highly unlikely they will be forced to decide on Revis before he is done with surgery.
     
  16. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    The reason has been discussed in great detail in this thread. Feel free to follow along.

    Would you feel better if the Jets immediately IR'd Revis and signed a 2nd string place kicker that would never see the active roster?
     
  17. laxin

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    I dont understand the reasoning behind this.

    Look at AP, the poster child now of ACL surgery. Tore his ACL christmas eve I believe and just barely made the season opener (which is absolutely CRAZY and unheard of such recovery time) and that was 6 months. Everyone was saying how this guy is not human and heals like a freak of nature.

    Look at Jamaal Charles. He tore his ACL in September, I think the same week Revis did, just obviously a year ago. I remember reading tweets of his saying he wasnt feeling like himself until well into August and is just looking like the old JC NOW. Thats 9+ months.

    And they think there's even a .002% chance he can make it back by the beginning of February? Why not use the Roster spot for an extra WR? or RB? or an actual CB instead of converting a RB to a CB and calling it fixed?

    I dont understand it... hopefully Im wrong and they put him on it shortly.

    Also, if Revis were to be "okay" by the SB, I dont see how his agent would let him play considering if he re-injured it, he could be risking his career.
     
  18. deerow84

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    They didn't say they are going to carry him all season regardless of what happens during the surgery only that they are waiting until after the surgery. If after the surgery there is 0% chance of him coming back until post SB then they will IR him and we can get that precious roster spot back you seem so concerned about. I don't know when the surgery is going to happen, it could be in a week and then maybe a week after that they know if he can come back or not (or maybe during the surgery they will know). We aren't talking about 10 weeks. At least I don't think so, did they ever say when the surgery would be? There was talk of getting a second opinion. Wouldn't it be funny if the second opinion says he doesn't need surgery? I bet you'd be pretty pissed if they had jumped and put him on IR then :breakdance:

    Plus, it's not like their is a bonafide superstar that we were waiting to sign and now are being hindered by this situation, we're talking about signing a 3rd or 4th or 5th string guy to play a half dozen snaps a game. That's hardly going to make or break our season.

    Do a cost/benefit analysis on the two options here:
    IR him right away
    Best case: you get a roster spot for a depth guy for a few additional weeks (the number of weeks is difference between now and post surgery, could be two or three weeks, who knows?)
    Worst case: you find out post surgery that he actually can come back but now that he's been placed on IR you can't bring him back and now are without your best player
    Worst case is far worse than the best case is good

    Wait until after surgery to decide to put him on IR
    Best case: You find out you can get him back and now can put him on the IR with the option to take him off once he's healthy, you can now add someone to the roster for the duration of time he's on IR (I assume, I have no idea how that works, I assume you just cut someone when he comes back to get down to the correct number)
    Worst case: you go a few weeks carrying a guy on the roster unnecessarily
    Best case scenario is far more beneficial than the the worst case is detrimental

    :beer:

    Edit: Also, did anyone factor in maybe the have discussed it with Revis and he doesn't want to be put on the IR until after his surgery? Maybe he wants to know for himself first because he wants a shot at a Super Bowl if it's at all possible? Maybe as a negotiating thing they will concede that to him for now instead of putting him on anyway and just pissing him off.
     
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  19. TurkJetFan

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    Well I think it could be a combination of both TBH. And this is assuming the Jets don't actually sign someone which has yet TBD.

    At what point do you take on a minimal contract for depth at a key position and a position you've just lost your best player. And at which point do you stay put and roll it over?
     
  20. boston_jet

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    Why would we sign a 2nd string place kicker in place of Revis? I think he was referring to solidifying CB depth....
     

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