Revis/Jets To Talk: Highest Paid Player?

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  1. discostu570

    discostu570 Active Member

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    All of the same ideas apply to the contracts for D'brickashaw Ferguson, David Harris, Nick Mangold, etc. etc. If you went out and signed them all to new deals tomorrow, as soon as the salary cap comes back, your likely to be way, way over it. NFL teams rely pretty heavily on underpaid younger players to stay under the salary cap.

    Just as importantly, there are a lot of guys in front of Revis in line. Leon Washington, for one. David Harris and Nick Mangold also come to mind, I believe their deals are up next year. It doesn't make much sense to expend all of your time and effort, not to mention cash, on a guy who's got three years left on his deal when you've got a number of talented young players who are much closer to hitting the exits. Maybe you make Revis happy, but you piss off a dozen other guys who played out their rookie deals (and then some, in the case of a guy like Leon who's an RFA two years running now).

    There isn't any incentive whatsoever for the Jets to be rushing to extend his deal. None. They've got him under contract the next three years for a fraction of what he'd be getting paid under a new deal. So unless he's willing to give the Jets a pretty steep discount, there's just no reason they'd make this move in the near future. They've got no reason to want to.

    Also, recall that Schefter is reporting this. Probably from Miami. Where Revis is. Not Tannenbaum. I'm sure Revis wants to talk new deal, and the Jets are probably willing to listen, but its a big leap from there to signing a contract.
     
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  3. discostu570

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    It isn't. Whatever bonus he's paid in an uncapped year is still going to count against the cap in any future years. For one year, you wouldn't have to worry about squeezing his new contract under the salary cap, and you already get that benefit by not doing a new deal.

    And the fact that he's turned out to be an All-Pro doesn't in any way suggest that the Jets should be trying to pay him more, it actually makes them look like geniuses for doing what it took to lock him up for six years initially. That sixth year, even though it was more expensive than his draft slot dictated, is a hell of a lot more cap friendly than the first year of his new contract will be, whenever it happens.
     
  4. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    1. You're making a huge assumption about the camp coming back.
    2. FRONTLOAD the contracts. Woody has the money to push their major paydays up front in order to avoid cap problems later on.
     
  5. vilmatic

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    just give him like 40 guarnteed then a 10 year contract. Sneak it in without the cap in one year - can't you do that?

    Regardless, he deserves whatever he wants.
     
  6. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    maybe we can show him a really nice contract and when hes about to sign it distract him and slip in a new contract signing him for the next 15 years (like Dipietro).
     
  7. nyjetsrule

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    well he may have the money but does woody really want to dole out massive bonuses for Brick, Mangold and Revis in the next year?

    Hell I seriously doubt it...
     
  8. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    The bonuses have always been prorated evenly over the length of the contract. It's the per-game salaries that always vary from year-to-year. The point is to push the highest salaries up to the uncapped season and then decrease them IF the cap returns in 2011.
     
  9. ScotsJet

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    Problem with frontloaded contracts is that when the player reaches the back end he thinks he's underpaid and forgets what he's had already. See Kendall, Pete and Jones, Thomas for evidence.
     
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    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    SEE: two guys who's production was greatly diminished by the time they started asking for new contracts and pay raises. Jones is a major health question mark and Kendall was decent the year he left the Jets. That's why you get their replacements before their ability dries up, something Tannenbaum did when he drafted Greene. Tannenbaum has learned how to handle these problems since Kendall's little dispute. If Harris, Brick, or Mangold start dropping off, their replacements will already be on the roster.
     
  11. GA Jets

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    All great points, the first one was the one I thought of as soon as I heard of the potential re-signing.
     
  12. Sanchez All Day

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    Just Pay the man

    I hope they get this over quick and easy
     
  13. hazmat

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    You guys are forgetting the rule of 30 in the uncapped year. No players combined salary and prorated bonus money can increase more then 30% of this last seasons number. We will not be able to extend any of our top tier players this off season.
     
  14. ScotsJet

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    The point is that if we give Revis a new 5-year deal with the guaranteed money frontloaded, come year 4 or 5 if he's paid a few million less than the going rate for top corners he'll be looking for more, big bonus be damned.
     
  15. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    I'm not seeing that in the CBA. Can you give me a source.
    EDIT: NVM, I just found one of your previous posts here:
    http://forums.theganggreen.com//showpost.php?p=1157707&postcount=1

    You specifically mentioned a restructured contract. Wouldn't Revis' extension count as a new contract?
     
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  16. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    ...and if he deserves it, he gets it.
     
  17. ScotsJet

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    But that defeats the purpose of frontloading the contract!
     
  18. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    other part of that sentence: and...if he doesn't deserve it, the contract stays the same. Notice how Thomas Jones is still playing under his original contract? Just because the guy is bitching about his money doesn't mean he is instantly a nuisance in the locker room.
     
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  19. hazmat

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    Just google rule of the thirty. It's all over the place. The only thing that matters is comparing the salary/bonus number from 2009 to 2010.
     
  20. Killeri9590

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    Pay the man whatever he wants..he's a cornerstone in our D for years to come
     

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