Republican Nomination Thread

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  1. deathstar

    deathstar Well-Known Member

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    Cruz desparate for attention.

    Super Pacs and candidates aren't supposed to be coordinating with each other...lol
     
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    So your child can't make her own choices and choose her own career path?

    I don't understand the issue here. Is the Fox News Debate Chief supposed to forbid their children from working in politics because it will cause him to be less effective at his job?
     
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    Right. Cruz is breaking the law. He will go to jail within 100 days of being elected president.
     
  5. Petrozza

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    Do you really expect them to ask Rubio any questions that might put him in a difficult situation to say the least? There's clearly a conflict of interests here.
     
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    If you had some of the conversations I've had with my dad you'd be less worried about this. The apple often bounces away from the tree instead of landing right under it.

    You're right that there might be a nepotism issue if the parent specifically got the child the job with Rubio but we don't know this was the case, and even if the parent did we don't know that the child asked to be setup at the preferred candidates campaign.

    For all we know the parent is a Bush supporter or a closet Cruz supporter and the child is on her own with Rubio.

    For Donald Trump to run scared of an encounter with a specific personality on Fox's debate team is kind of telling. He has had the balls to say and do just about anything else and confront anything else. What was he scared of? Was he afraid that if the Trump personality came out on national TV with a cute blonde as the target it might suddenly tip something?

    The other thing is that if I was Trump I'd be hoping the moderators gave Rubio special treatment and treated Trump poorly. It's that kind of year. The guys who are in front are the guys that the GOP electorate senses are on the outs with the GOP establishment.

    Roughing up Trump and sending rainbows Rubio's way could have backfired spectacularly and caused Trump's supporters to harden even further in their affiliation.
     
  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I never got the impression trump was scared of anyone. I thought he was doing this for the media coverage and to help solidify the impression that he's willing to take a stand.
     
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    Idk about this anymore. Trump not showing up could make him look weak or a person who runs whenever he disagrees with a problem or person. Hopefully he changes his mind before tonight and join the debate.

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    The President never backs away from a fight. If he can't find his way on that stage he's not going to be elected. Because as much as his supporters may harden in favor of him everybody else is going to be asking why he wasn't there when the race for the nomination could have been all but ended on the night.

    No guts no glory. News cycle be damned.
     
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    I previously posted a link about Reagan skipping the last debate before Iowa prior to winning a landslide election.
     
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    Its not about guys and glory at this stage. Its about getting elected. Its not a serious life or death political matter, its not even a football game, its just (yet another) debate of talking heads. This decision helps him get closer to being elected.

    Honestly I think he's doing the Republican party a favor as well as himself. Through their 97 debates or whatever its gotten pretty boring. A lot of people even people that care about these things wouldn't have even watched this debate. Now its all everyone is talking about. Trump wins and the party wins.

    While the dems hold their 1 or 2 debates in the dark on youtube at 4AM and hope no one watches. Yet trump is the one backing away?
     
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    You see it doesn't really matter whether he supports Rubio or not. It's like when you have, let's say, a construction project and a bunch of companies submitting their tenders. A member of the selection panel has a relative working for one of the bidding companies, don't you think the other companies would have a thing or two to say about that? What we have here is pretty much the same thing. Either she should not be working for Rubio, or her father should not be directly involved in shaping up the debate.

    As for Trump running scared of Megyn Kelly, that's just laughable. Even Fox News' own reporters were pretty much in agreement last night that it wasn't the case.

    That was just another calculated move on Trump's part.

    1). Once again all media outlets are talking about him, rather than the other candidates.
    2). Bill O'Reilly's last night pleading to reconsider only proved that Fox needs Trump more than Trump needs Fox. Fox is going to lose ratings and advertising revenue as a result of this. Trump's event is scheduled at the same time and will be shown on CNN.
    3). If Cruz's campaign really believed all that BS that Trump made a bad move and it was going to cost him votes, Cruz would not be challenging him to a "mano a mano" debate. Trump took the ball and is running towards the goal line, and this is nothing short of their last desperate attempt to stop him.
    4). All of the other candidates will have to adjust their debate strategies, as the main target will not be there. Cruz will most likely become the main target now. Do you think it's going to benefit him?
    5). According to Trump, two other candidates expressed their desire to join him at his event instead of going to the debate. If that's indeed the case and they ditch the debate today, Fox News will be deep in shit and heads are going to start rolling.

    Whether you like him or hate him, Trump is the master mass media manipulator. He just proved it once again.
     
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    Trump's going to give Rubio and Cruz and Bush and Christie and Kasich and Paul a free bite of the apple.

    What are the odds a couple of those guys don't wind up looking good and gaining some momentum? The news cycle tomorrow might be about Rubio's ability to establish himself as a real candidate. It might be about Cruz stealing some of Trump's thunder and establishing himself more firmly as a Tea Party favorite. Trump isn't a Tea Party candidate he's a candidate who has the Tea Party's interest at this point. What if Cruz establishes himself as a better candidate for the Tea Party?

    I do buy the popular notion at this point that Bush is all but out. He's got the non-angry candidate in an angry electorate problem and unfortunately he is the definition of the GOP establishment with 2 past Presidents in his immediate family. I still think he's got a chance to emerge in a brokered convention at the end but his path to the nomination is much less clear at the moment.
     
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    Or this could be Trump's biggest error. Only time will tell. Networks might choose to not even mention him after tonight's debate. And by not mentioning I mean very little coverage.

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    What channel is Trump's thing on?
     
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    lol

    you don't really believe that will happen, do you?
     
  17. Big Blocker

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    I have nothing more on policy or personality grounds against Rubio than the others, except perhaps Kasich, if I had a gun to my head and had to pick one. (Kasich sounds reasonable, but in fact his administration has not done much good for Ohio. Still he would be my reluctant choice in this field.)

    But I don't understand what is the logic of the Rubio campaign. Why him in any positive terms, as compared to not Cruz, not Trump? He has no record of accomplishment, while not being the outsider many GOP voters seem (however irrationally) to hunger for. He doesn't seem to have any proposals that he came up with that are at all compelling. While Hispanic I don't see him pulling much away from HRC in a general election, either. And for foreign policy, are we serious here?

    I know that some analysts suggest he could be difficult in November since he can contrast his youth and newness. But that's atmospherics - on the merits of policies, he's old school right wing establishment. And while some think things in his personal life make for a compelling narrative, it seems easier to paint him as ambitious than accomplished. He can't manage his own finances, and he wants to run the US economy?

    Most of the others for good or ill at least have some logic to their candidacy (other than the awful Fiorina "I did a shit job running a big company!").

    I must be missing something.
     
  18. deathstar

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    Trump = ratings.
     
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    Cartoon Network.

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    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-event/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
     

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