Republican Nomination Thread

I wouldn't bet against someone whose campaign has so far defied all rules and numerous predictions of an imminent collapse. It's pretty much like Obama in 2008 when from being an unknown he managed to beat Hillary to the DNC nomination. His campaign used social media like no other candidate back then, which IMO gave him a huge advantage.
Now Trump is doing something very similar. He's finding ways to constantly stay in the news. For instance, I just went to huffingtonpost.com, the most pathetic leftist liberal website there is. There are 12 mentions of Trump on their home page. Sanders is mentioned 11 times, Hillary is mentioned 7 times, while Cruz is mentioned only 4 times. He's beating them even on the most leftist news website. They are way behind in that game, just like all the other candidates were way behind Obama's "Yes we can" in 2008.

 

Without any political skin in the game you read an awful lot about politics.

I didn't bother to read your post at all but already know what it contains. Why do you bother to invest so much time into political debate when you don't care about it? Oh wait, that's right.

 

He hasn't taken the oath of office yet. Many candidates will say one thing before they are President and then uphold the Constitution when the other thing happens on their aegis. That's why the American political system works even to the limited extent that is true today.

I believe President Obama took as long as he did to come out in favor of gay marriage at least partly because he was aware of his responsibilities in terms of protecting the Constitution. He waited for the moment in which the civil conversation had reached a majority in favor and then he came out in favor of gay marriage, as legislated by the states individually.

As a candidate he had been in favor of civil unions, not gay marriage. He said that his faith as a Christian told him that marriage was a pact reserved for a man and a woman.

When the Supreme Court had acted constitutionally by striking down DOMA and preventing states from barring gay marriage in sequence to make gay marriage a constitutionally protected right he then endorsed gay marriage as constitutional, because it was at that point and he, as President had to defend the Constitution.

One question that you should always ask about a candidate for President is whether you believe he will uphold the Constitution or use his power to change it. The ones who would use their power to change it are the potential Caesar's and Napoleon's and we shouldn't let those guys get within a country mile of the White House.

The guys who just break the law once in office can be dealt with. It's the guys who want to change the basis of government who are really dangerous.

The closest we've come to a real revolution in this country was during the depression when people were starving and getting forced off their lands by debt and drought and military vets marched across the country for immediate payment of the bonuses they were due in future years.

FDR proposed a series of laws to change the social contract, authorizing things like Social Security and increased federal spending to support the newly impoverished working class in America. No problem there, because he wasn't amending or altering the Constitution. However he ran into strong opposition from a conservative Supreme Court and many of the bills he had called for failed under judicial review on Constitutional grounds.

So he tried to pack the court by adding 6 new justices to give him a better chance at getting the New Deal through. Amazingly, there was still no actual Constitutional flaw in this, because the Constitution does not specify a fixed number of judges, although the tradition had been 9.

The problem was that what he was doing might well have been construed as unconstitutional because he'd have been adding justices specifically to override the Constitutional boundaries that the separation of powers create, with the Executive, Legislative and Judicial all required to bring laws into existence. If the President can neutralize the Judicial by altering it's makeup in a way clearly not envisioned by the Constitution, well that's gotta be unconstitutional, right? Even if you can't find any specific wording that suggests it is in the Constitution itself?

The bargain that was struck eventually, once the conservatives realized that there was no actual prohibition against what FDR was proposing and once FDR realized that his solution put the Constitution on shaky grounds at best, was that the bills were resubmitted with minor alterations and the Supreme Court ruled in their favor the second time around.

So again, is the guy you're interested in going to work with the Constitution and bend when he realizes it is more important than he is or will he roll over it and open the floodgates to god knows what?

 

Trump is only still there to make Hillary's election believable. The rest is window dressing.

 

And without anything to say, you do chirp a lot.

No doubt. And as soon as Debbie Wasserman-Schultz can clear the room of those 'free choice' props Sanders and O'Malley, she'll then hand off the coronated one to the Fourth Estate for final confirmation and processing......the same Fourth Estate that helped incubate her first candidacy under the guise of that "listening tour" (i.e. look but don't ask) sham.

 

Funny. I wonder what your favorite websites are. Foxnews? Lol

So true

 

Kill me now.

 

You are the only one who gets scared around here.

You thought Iran was going to launch nukes against us...LOL.

 

It is still a bad deal. I may be a liberal but the Iran deal is an absolute joke. You don't allow billions to funnel into a country that declares 'death to America'

 

So many people shape numbers to fit there point of view. If you read the article it becomes clear that the reason that Fox is the most trusted network is because it panders to it's audience. Basically 58% of Republicans trust the Republican news channel the most while Democrats are closely divided between all the major networks (everyone but FOX). I find it interesting that only Dems and Republicans were polled and Independents (the other 1/3 of Americans) weren't.

So back to using numbers to skew things I conducted a poll about Americans favorite beverage and it turns out that Americans HATE MILK. 52% of people chose soda, 30% chose Orange Juice and 18% chose milk.

The detailed results are out of the 100 people surveyed 50 had no dietary restrictions and 50 were lactose intolerant.
The lactose intolerant people: 30 people chose soda, 19 chose oj and 1 chose milk
The people with no diet restrictions: 22 chose soda, 11 chose oj and 17 chose milk

This just in to the Fox News Desk "American's don't like milk" brought to you by the most trusted name in news.

 

The number of independents is just going to keep rising as long as the GOP keeps narrowing the definition of who a true conservative is. Rumors are Rush Limbaugh is getting too lefty-feely for the party and Glenn Beck has definitely gone over the top.

 

Well Iowa and New Hampshire are raving socialist collectives at this point by the ever evolving barometer that is RINO.

The perfectly conservative GOP would have just 1 person in it. I have no idea who that guy or gal is but the race to find them seems to be accelerating year over year.

 

As opposed to those from Senegal, perhaps?

 

Trump just slapped FOX across the face

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...d-trump-definitely-not-doing-fox-news-debate/

There go their ratings and ad revenue...

 

Regarding your polling numbers about Fox being the "most trusted" I believe you need to take that with a grain of salt. I believe when people are answering 'most trusted' they are basically answering in context of what they are watching.

Basically the question is - "which news channel are you most likely to watch?" to hear Fox News as the answer there is no surprise to me then. In WWE wrestling they found that when a "bad guy" holds the title with a "good guy" chasing him their ratings go way up. They allow the "good guy" to finally win the title and it gets boring and nobody watches. Basically this is slanted news channels in a nutshell. When we have a Conservative President, liberal slanted news channels are really popular. MSNBC never did so well as they did towards the end of the Bush term. Now we have a Liberal President and its not a surprise that conservative slanted news channel is so popular.. aka. "most trusted"

I will say something funny I've observed however is that the people that seem to know the most about Fox News tend to be a lot of the liberals. Its as if they watch it so they can trash it? I personally don't care much for the network except to see that sexy Megyn Kelly. I would consider her my most trusted newscaster simply because I love her boobs