Report: "Zach Wilson was fundamentally falling apart"

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  1. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Wilson definitely made a point to try and take the underneath stuff, that was good to see. He was also really inaccurate and overthinking everything though. Baby steps I guess.
     
  2. Centiment

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    How was he acccurate he was throwing over heads and at feet, that doesn't count as accurate lol
     
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    why can't he be like Arron Rogers
     
  4. REVISion

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    I said inaccurate.
     
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  5. Br4d

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    It looked a lot to me like Wilson was trying really hard not to throw interceptions. He saw what happened to Mike White and he knows what his track record looks like and he was trying really hard not to throw the second interception.

    Sanchez went through that phase after they put him back on the field with the color-coded wristlet. He'd throw balls into the ground at the feet of wide open receivers if he felt pressure in the pocket.
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

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    There was a play in the middle of the second quarter where they showed the overhead replay view of what he was seeing and he literally didn’t look like he was looking at any receiver at all.

    Of course camera angles can be deceiving but he does not look like he’s seeing the field at all and he’s merely just trying to survive out there. I think your assessment is correct though that’s a bit troublesome considering he was supposed to be a big play maker coming out.
     
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  7. Br4d

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    Because the Jets don't have Brett Favre to keep him on the bench for 3 seasons running the scout team.
     
  8. Br4d

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    It's easier to be a big playmaker in an offensive conference with weak defenses and CB's who cannot cover a fly route consistently.
     
  9. Jonathan_Vilma

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    PFF dislikes this.
     
  10. dmw

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    All the characteristics that Mac Jones has.
     
  11. soh_vet

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    Face it, of all all the 1st round QB's selected last year, we picked the lemon (and the pat's didn't). no surprise. snake-bitten team.
     
  12. RPOZ51

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    Today made me wonder whether they had him make any short throws at his Pro Day, you know, the kind he might actually have to use in a game, or was it all deep, off balance, hero-ball throws?

    The kid obviously has talent. It just doesn't seem that he has mastered the ordinary stuff.
     
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  13. Br4d

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    I looked at all the analysts who broke down Zach Wilson last year and the one thing that stood out for all of them was the big cluster of throws down the left sideline 25 to 45 yards deep. It was like 80% of the real damage that Zach did to defenses last year, the gashes that they could not recover from. It was very impressive.

    However...

    All of those same analysts were of the opinion that it was a pipedream to expect that kind of dominance of the deep sideline to continue in the NFL. They all talked about the difference between taking the top off of a non-power college conference defense and doing the same to an NFL defense.

    So the question for all of them was what kind of QB Zach Wilson would be if he needed to make his bread all over the field instead of just down the sidelines.

    We're at least partly seeing the answer to that now. Zach Wilson has no game except with the deep stuff. He's not a rhythmic distributor and he doesn't manage his checkdowns well. He holds the ball too long instead of checking down and when he does go to his 3rd and 4th reads he often telegraphs the play in a way that a faster NFL defender can take advantage of him.

    None of this would have been obvious to the analysts last year because he didn't have to checkdown very often and when he did the defenders were not NFL caliber. So the analysts were reading an incomplete book of Zach and trying to figure out what the missing chapters were going to look like.
     
  14. dmw

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    Right now Mac Jones is looking much better than Zach Wilson.
     
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    The Pats coaching staff Is infinitely better than ours and has a history of developing a young. Mac also landed in the most talented spot of all the rookie QBs. Does it really shock you that Mac looks the best? It shouldn’t.
     
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    And if you swapped teams for them Wilson would look better than Jones. Context matters.
     
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  17. dmw

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    Jones is poised, accurate, a good decision-maker, all things Wilson hasn't been able to do so far.
     
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  18. JackBower

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    We should start banning people who bring up Jones in the Gameday threads.

    Literally nobody gives a shit, go self loathe somewhere else.
     
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  19. dmw

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    Just pointing out the facts. It pains me to say it, but so far, Jones looks much better than Wilson.
     
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  20. Acad23

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    The question is... can we sue?
     

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