Report: Jets players doubted Sparano during season

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  1. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    You honestly think Woody wanted attention in this bad season? Unless I'm mistaken, there hasn't been anything so far this season that suggested that. The media is the one who is craving for one liners and punchlines. Hell, some idiot a couple of months ago asked him if Tebow was a virgin...
     
  2. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Manish is a clown hat, I'm so sick of his "behind" the scenes reporting. If someone doesn't put their name to it, then the validity of it is non-existent in my opinion.

    If you can't put a credible source to what you are writing then just stop, just like many of the Jets have said, it could be the Jets janitor for all we know. Which is the point, we don't know and it could be someone just talking out their ass acting like they have some form of credible insight.

    A good reporter doesn't have to hid behind bullshit undisclosed sources, a good reporter puts out facts based around proof of those facts.

    This is all bullshit reporting to me.

    Just like many others, I too didn't like what I seen from Sporano but if you don't have the facts, shut the fuck up. IMO
     
  3. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    You guys are getting off topic. There is a lot of other threads strictly regarding, Rex.
     
  4. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    1: I agree. Tebow distraction wasn't necessary.

    It was a ridiculous idea destined to blow up in their faces.

    2: Yeah, Rex totally wanted those videos released just so everyone can look at his wife's feet. Whatever fetishes he has are none of anyone's business. He can be into BDSM for all I care.

    A public figure like him, once he videotapes it and puts that shit online, (he posted these videos all over the internet) it becomes everyone's business unfortunately.

    3: Really...? God forbid that he wants to win a Superbowl. He went around it in the wrong manner, but he has the right idea.

    Every coach wants to win a Super Bowl, you go guaranteeing it in this market you create all hype, then fail and the team has to eat a disproportionate amount of shit. No other coach is going around guaranteeing Super Bowls are they?

    4: WTF. So you don't want him guaranteeing superbowls, but you want him to say 'everything is hunky dorey' when they had what I assumed was a fairly unrealistic shot at the playoffs.

    No he said they were eliminated when they weren't then was corrected, it's ridiculous for a coach to no know that he isn't eliminated from the playoffs (the Jets made the playoffs that year too).

    5: Can't comment one way or another about this, as I haven't heard it.

    He's always calling out Brady by name, it's ridiculous, burying game balls, not here to kiss Bellichick's rings. This is all nonsense of course that brings media attention.

    6: OH NOES!!! A football coach is cursing and acting less than professional in front of his players! Whatever shall we do!

    On Hard Knocks, again looking for unneeded attention, acting like a buffoon and unprofessional, behind closed doors fine, in front of the world act like a damn professional running a professional organization.



    7: Really...I wasn't aware we had a winless season because of 'chasing headlines'.

    I think the priority has been landing on the back page more than winning football games, the Tebow debacle solidified that for me.

    8: I do find it a little odd. But, it's not like he left on his own. Woody probably told the staff that he would take care of the fine and gave them all a break. We have more important things to do than address the media. Most of our fans think he's delusional or lying, so what's the point of hearing him speak...?

    Doesn't matter what the point is, point is it's a simple rule to give a press conference within a week, every other team did, Jets and Rex didn't for some ridiculous reason.

    9: Yeah, that's bad. But, I think it's going to get cleaned up next season with Rex still here.

    Well as long as you think the leaks get cleaned up that's great, the fact that players, coaches, and anyone else seem to have no problem going behind Rex's back to throw coaches and players under the bus to the media is a HUGE problem.

    So, you think it's the circus because of some bad reasons. In other words, because the media said so.

    No I think it's a circus because it is a circus, this isn't a NY media invention, there are tons of reasons why it's a circus, the media just amplifies it.
     
  5. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    This is crap. That sorry lot of athletes who call themselves football players should be beyond thankful they get to sit on an NFL bench, much less take the field. Yet another example of why the personnel issues are so bad on the offensive side of the ball.

    Bunch of self entitled ingrates. When did Curtis Martin or Wayne Chrebet EVER doubt the play calling of anyone they ever played for? They didn't, they were professionals.
     
  6. ShadeTree#55

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    Who would doubt running into the line of scrimmage on 1st down and 4 yd passes on 3rd and 7?
     
  7. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    As bad as we felt watching TS's offense imagine playing in it.
    I still hate anonymous sources but I could totally see the players being frustrated.
     
  8. Other than acquiring Tebow...what did the Jets do to seek out attention? Did you watch any of Rex's pressers? Not just the hand picked quotes from the media..but the full actual press conferences?I'm not sure how much LESS information Rex could give about anything. He was complimentary of the jets competition, never said anything outlandish & was polite to everyone in the room. Yet these controversial stories still kept spewing. Explain to me how that is seeking out attention?
     
  9. stinkyB

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    in other news many JETS fans doubted Sparano before the season even began....... :shit: :finssuck:
     
  10. Jake

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    Of course is a Manish article.
     
  11. Ever notice how these "Anonymous source" articles drawn almost completely on speculation/emotion and not on tangible data are always stirred up by Mehta on slow news days? There is absolutely no coincidence that this is coming out during the midst of a gag order.
     
  12. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    They have independent editors who have to confirm these stories before they go out, for Mehta to just make this stuff up wildly would disastrous for the paper and Mehta, I am pretty sure he has a few sources perfectly willing to leak this stuff to him to undermine the team for some reason.
     
  13. CBG

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    ARMAND J,,,,,maybe the question should be " what is your definition of a circus " ? If you object to that term so be it but call it "screwed up", "a fiasco", or my personal favorite " a circus " --> it was what it is ! Just because there were no center rings or big top or lion tamers does not change what it IS :up:
    OH YEAH some media people called it a circus and I agree . Where else do you start a season, trading for a backup qb,fly him in on your private jet, setup and allow a media frenzy at your traing camp then use the guy as your "personal punt protector "? That was only the beginning,,, that was before all the other amusing stuff like Wayne Hunter, Sanchez and all other on field play, coaching miscues, and the ever hilarious you tube BUTT FUMBLE :rofl:,,,,AH maybe you are right maybe calling it a circus is doing injustice to circuses all over the world .
     
  14. LeonNYJ

    LeonNYJ Well-Known Member

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    Remember back when people used to talk about how great every article put out by Manish was?
     
  15. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    It's always been Rex's mantra to allow his players to speak freely to the media. He lends well to attention and up until this season he's never been afraid of grabbing attention... Since the day he's got here he's made it known that he's not one to put a mussle on himself or any certain players. He wanted to run an open locker room and didn't want his players to feel like they have to be robots...

    Obviously that's going to attract media attention. Those guys are paid to get the scoop and to seek out the story. In a league where 99% of the players and coaches are tight-lipped it's normally a struggle. But the NYJ and their open door policy is a journalist's dream. You can't fault them for doing their jobs..

    The problem is that Rex can't have it both ways. You can't provide sound bites and run an open door policy when the going is good and then when things start going bad - try to drop that culture, there's long ranging ramifications...

    2009,2010, 2011 and even when the season started he wasn't so tight-lipped... sure this year's embarrassing failure has caused him personally to tone down the rhetoric on a daily basis, but you can't change the entire culture of the organization overnight.

    These anonymous sources are simply the players and coaches that Rex has assembled and the ramifications of allowing them to speak freely in his entire time here. They just aren't putting their names on it anymore because they are largely negative now - things are going bad. Maybe they are cowards for doing this, but it doesn't change the fact that this is the culture Rex Ryan and by extension Woody Johnson (loves Rex) has created..

    Mehta, Cimini, etc. aren't just making stuff up. They have been afforded such a gold mine that they don't HAVE to make things up. They are just doing their jobs. If stories from Florham Park piss you off then you should be pissed at the people working at Florham Park, not the messengers that are showing us how things are..

    New York is obviously under more scrutiny, but when Mangini was here he was the dullest, most tight-lipped individual ever. He kept a mussle on his players and didn't tell the media anything. Where was the media agenda to ruin the Jets then? Where were all the anonymous sources? - Answer is there wasn't any. The difference is the culture of the organization created from the men at top was much differant.
     
  16. displacedfan

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    The main problem I have is sitting on quotes and waiting to release them which Mehta did twice I can think of this season and then trying to pass them off as current or doing nothing to stop the notion that it's current news. Like Mike turned down his contract extension in August, but that wasn't made clear in the article and the "anon" comments on Tebow were made months before the article was used and that wasn't made clear either. That seems misleading and on the reporters.
     
  17. #1 Jets Fan

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    That where ur wrong. Any player has the right to doubt the play calling on the team. U earn the right when u make the team.
     

  18. Well yeah there was a media agenda. During that era the media bitched that the jets were too tight lipped & mocked them for that. Basically the Jets can't win w/ their media policy.

    The only way to stop the media's anti-jet agenda is to win. Unfortunately winning has been ever elusive to this franchise.
     
  19. Combustible Rextible

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    This is basic common sense and not news. If there are long scoreless streaks, of course guys are going to doubt the guy dialing the plays and coming up with the gameplan.
     
  20. Ben Had

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    You mean back when you were winning?
     

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