Fuck tanking. If this team is so terrible over the next 4 years that they need to tank for Arch Manning when he isn't even in college yet, the Jets should be kicked out of the NFL.
I disagree. Mike came in as a sub and played very well the first game. He got another shot. Got injured. Got another shot. Played like absolute dog shit last game, and got injured again. It absolutely makes sense to try someone else as a back-up if that option is available. I can understand cutting Zach some slack because he is a rookie, in NFL for the first time, and going through growing pains. I am not sure however that cutting a back-up on his 4th year out of College some slack makes sense. When a back-up comes in and sucks as bad as White did last game (and having overall poor numbers of 5TD, 8INT, 75 rating), the message that makes sense is to give opportunity to someone else. With Flacco trade we have that someone else.
I agree that there is no question about Flacco's being washed up and not being on the team next year. I don't think that White needs to play more to be evaluated. The Jets' CS has been watching him in practice since April or May. JD watched him all last season. They are fully aware of what he can and can't do. He would stand no chance of succeeding vs the Dolphins because of the way they play defense.
While I actually agree with your general sentiment. Going off last weeks particular game I think you almost can't apply it. That was just such a firestorm of a beatdown all over the field. If you "didn't cut any slack" to all the players who got beaten badly last week at their individual positions and assignments there literally aren't enough roster spots to bench and replace them all against Miami. That Buffalo loss wasn't even a tiny bit Mike Whites fault. If he'd somehow managed to, against all odds, throw for 350 yards and 3 TDs the game still wouldn't have even been close and now you'd be faced with the problem of how do you get Wilson back into game action politically. And not to be a conspiracy theorist but behind closed and locked soundproof doors I bet that was at least a tertiary factor in the decision to go with Flacco this week. You get the triple benefit of 1) settling veteran presence ( at least hopefully) 2) maybe you actually will hit a few long passes and catch lightning in the bottle and 3) if he DOES somehow do well you can still safely yank his ass when Wilson is finally ready to get some more game action.
While I don't like seeing Flacco come in so quickly, Mike White's Cincy game was sexy but it was done in Chad Pennington popgun fashion and the moment teams started daring him to throw it over the top, we saw what those string bean arms had to offer. Plus he's an injury waiting to happen. He's a backup game manager who can move the sticks if they give you something underneath and if the Oline can make the run game somewhat effective. I'd almost rather a running QB as backup. No accuracy needed there. Maybe Flacco'll force some passes to Mims so we can finally kill the rest of those vampires in the Club Mims basement.
The Buffalo loss wasn't all on White, but his limitations got exposed. If he can't consistently hit on throws down the field, teams will just take away the underneath stuff and he will struggle. I bet if he had thrown for 350 and 3, he would be starting this week. I think a big reason why they're making this switch is to help guys like Moore and Davis develop in the offense. Now, the latter certainly can't drop passes, but both need to become established weapons going into 2022.
An opportunity to what? It's very clear what Flacco is; there's nothing to be discovered there. If you had instead asked for Johnson to be given the opportunity this week that would at least make a bit of sense - he also still hasn't had the chance to show what he is over an extended period. It's strange that after you discuss how White's performance has hit both ends of the spectrum that you're not interested in seeing where he actually lies somewhere in between. Doesn't the "red shirt" freshman deserve it if the true freshman does?
I’m not enamored of this decision at all…I agree it sends a bad message. White had a bad day against the best defense in the league. So did pretty much everyone else on our team. If this is the thinking, then why the fuck hasn’t GVR been benched? What about the shit we trot out there as linebackers because we drafted a bunch of day 3 safeties to play linebacker? personally, I’d rather roll with White for one more week and then get Wilson out there at Houston. We already knew this season was about young player development and not about winning. so Flacco doesn’t qualify. this kind of decision making is exactly why we are a damn laughingstock around the league. No fucking clue. We are clearly now focusing on getting a win so the coaching staff can cool their seats a little bit…at the expense of developing White or even Wilson…I’m not buying the injury excuse on Wilson anymore…if he’d been showing promise, he’d be playing. Instead, he’s shown that he’s not ready…he’s struggling with accuracy, even on the short stuff, and he’s struggling with reading defenses, which is understandable. So I’m ok letting him sit another week and bring him back against a weaker Houston team, but it should be White starting. I think trading for Flacco was a panic move that did not make sense…and I think playing him now is trying to justify the trade and cool the coaching hot seat. The only way this move makes sense is if Flacco lights it up, and we get a win that starts a little run…that would be a decent result. Outside of that, all this does is send a bad message to White and the team. but such a typical Jets move….
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...on-to-get-back-to-full-health-and-confidence/ Robert Saleh: Jets need Zach Wilson to get back to “full health and confidence” Posted by Michael David Smith on November 19, 2021, 11:21 AM EST When Jets quarterback Zach Wilson hurt his knee, it was described as a two-to-four-week injury. Sunday will be four weeks since Wilson suffered that injury, but he’s not back on the field yet, with Joe Flacco set to start against the Dolphins. That doesn’t necessarily mean Wilson’s knee has taken longer than expected to heal, but it does mean that the Jets aren’t going to put him on the field until he’s fully confident that he can play without putting his knee in further jeopardy. “He’s progressed well. He’ll be doubtful for the game,” Jets coach Robert Saleh said. “He’s getting better, he’s putting in extra work. He’s getting an individual session at the end of every practice, and some of the receivers sticking behind to make sure he’s getting his work in, to try to get him back not only to full health, but confidence with regards to the knee, his fundamentals, recapturing everything. It’s been a month now since he’s played, and his practices are limited. He gets some snaps with the show team, but it’s not all of them. So we’re just trying to monitor and make sure he gets back to full health and confidence.” How soon Wilson will return to the field remains to be seen. When he does, the Jets need him to show signs of development. Something he didn’t show a lot of in his first six starts.
“Needs full health and confidence” before he will play cringeworthy this is supposed to be the “all gas no brake” coach. What a fraud that is
Each year you need a backup that can come in and hold the fort for a game or two. You don't need a career A+ backup. Those guys leave in free agency. The only teams that have backup for multiple years have backups that suck and could never start for another team like Geno Smith.
btw, its funny that Jets fans get their shit all twisted over Flacco and White... ffs ACCEPT THE PAIN
3 years from being legit Super Bowl contenders? I can buy that. Joe Douglas nabbed the Jets 4 starting players this year. AVT has been solid, Moore is proving he can play, Michael Carter is a really solid piece in an RBCC and maybe he can be a feature back, and Michael Carter II hasn’t given up a touchdown in 40 or so targets his way. Despite that, the Jets are still a top heavy team (like all rebuilding teams are) and they lost Wilson, Becton, Lawson + Huff, and Maye. Add onto it most of their snaps are coming from rookies, it makes sense why the team is struggling.
