The part I highlighted above is the key .... "TRIED to get along". Hitler had the whole world fooled at first, not the least of which was his own people. Nobody could have predicted the horrors to come. But when the Church realized the mistake it had made in trying to make deals with a madman, it quickly condemned Hitler and the Nazis for what they were, and Pope Pius XI issued his historic encyclical that was smuggled into Nazi Germany and read secretly in Catholic Churches. It was a letter that strongly condemned Hitler and the Nazis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge "Within 3 years of the concordat's signing, the Pope had issued nearly 40 notes of formal protest to the Nazi regime. On Palm Sunday 1937 came the most dramatic Papal denunciation of Hitler's Germany. It was an encyclical that had been slipped into the country by stealth and was read from every Catholic pulpit in the land. It catalogued the Nazis' violations of the concordat, pointedly affirmed Christianity's roots in Judaism, underlined the universality of the Catholic faith that treated all people of whatever nation and race as the children of God, and condemned the Neo-paganism of the Nazis and their "mad prophet" Adolph Hitler." The Nazis responded with repression and explicit threats against the Church. " -- H.W. Crocker III
Googling it on the internet and doing ten minutes of research and finding results that confirm your POV is piecemeal evidence even though it's done all of time esp here. There are differing views about Pius and the Nazis. There's the Catholic Church's version which says he worked with Hitler - to save lives. But I think most scholars think he didn't do enough and was even complicit with the Nazis.
LOL is your go to phrase when you have been proven wrong. There are many passages in Mein Kampf (Hitler's autobiography) where he discusses Catholicism, Christianity and god. My responses use facts and your responses are ad-hoc.
This thread is hilarious, it has basically devolved into the OP feverishly claiming that anything bad about the Catholic church is brainwashing, and photos Photoshopped, and all of it is propaganda and lies. Either the OP is a good fit for am insane asylum or he is the biggest troll on this forum. I'll vote for the latter. Some day someone is going to have to do a catalog of all of his ridiculous claims, that would be a good read
Isn't amazing how many pictures were Photoshopped, how many conspiracies there were, how many lies have been told, all in this thread and exposed by "truth". I did a forum search of this thread and used lies, photoshopped, conspiracy, bashers, propaganda and alleged as search terms. Truth used those words in at least 53 different posts in this thread. Figure he probably has 10-15% of the posts in the thread, using the high figure that would be 88 posts, which would mean he claims deceit in at least 53 of 88 posts, 60% of his posts. If that is not the definition of delusional I am not sure what is.
Damn, I forgot "propaganda" as a search term. He used that one 14 times which would bring it up to 76%, counting for possible overlap of words I guess we could bring it down to 65% of his posts he is claiming deceit by other posters.
There will always be the "tough nuts to crack", as they say. The stubborn, obstinate individuals who will not budge from their POV regardless of the amount of evidence they are presented with. I mean, if there were people in Jesus' own time who denied all of the signs and miracles, prompting Jesus Himself to say He was "amazed at their lack of faith", or something to that effect, why should I be surprised that 2000+ years later there will be doubters out there. Sometimes, the best argument in the world, and the best evidence in the world, isn't enough...that's where an experience, such as provided by the Arts, that touches the human spirit and stirs the Holy Spirit present in us, is a better teacher. That's perhaps the greatest poverty of our age, we have a serious shortage of quality plays, films, and music that express God's love, truth, justice, honor, and the greatness of the human spirit. I'm listening to "Les Miserables" on NJTV PBS as I write this. The first time I saw this amazing musical was watching the new movie version recently, the one with Russell Crowe, Hugh Jackman, Anne Hathaway, and Sasha Baron Cohen. Just a few of the hugely popular iconic films/plays that share a common thread of Christian morality and timeless themes of the struggle of good vs. evil. The elevation of the human spirit, love, chivalry, honor, all of the virtues that religion inspires in people of all ages. Timeless wisdom, virtue, and truth. There's a reason these works are timeless and remain popular generation after generation. We have largely forgotten the kind of art that elevates us, and makes us a better people. Works that inspire us. There is too much garbage in the media nowadays that drags us down, rather than raising us up.
For those raised Catholic, all the historical and doctrinal aspects of Christianity fit together like a puzzle; all the pieces fit together perfectly into a cohesive whole that just makes sense. For the millions worldwide, in every country and culture, people of every race, ethnicity, and nationality, raised Catholic, we tend to take the reasons fo our belief for granted. But for those who were not, it's easy to understand the stumbling blocks to coming to a belief and understanding of these truths that bring meaning to life, and a deep, profound sense of peace and joy that nothing else can bring. This best-selling book does a great job of explaining the validity of our faith. I wrote those words awhile back in the margins of this great book. It's written by the Presbyterian pastor of a very popular church in New York City (Manhattan). It's meant to answer the questions of skeptical New Yorkers, and although not Catholic, there is nothing in it that contradicts Catholic doctrine, and it's one of the best books I've ever read. If you are searching for the truth, wrestling with doubts, or just curious about why Christians believe what they do, you will love this book.
Do you realize that when you point at the mirror, three fingers point back at you? We have been presenting you with evidence and you just gloss over it or respond with unscientific, unsubstantiated gibberish. I will budge from my point of view when you or anyone else provides evidence of the existence of a god. It could be any one of the thousands of gods that people have claimed existed, whether it be a Norse god, Greek god or Roman god. There have been claims of thousands of gods and not once have any of them been demonstrated to have existed. The burden of proof lies with you. You have to prove that a god exists. I don't have to prove that a god doesn't exist. It's impossible to disprove a negative.
Demonstrate how all historical and doctrinal aspects of Christianity fit together like a puzzle. Why does it make sense? Explain using examples.
That's what I've been trying to do in this thread, but maybe I haven't done a good enough job of it. I can truthfully say that it all does make perfect sense to me, and I am a free thinker, I have attended public schools and been introduced to all different types of philosophies. But nothing else made sense for me, nothing else painted a complete picture of reality for me. Of course it will take some time for me to try and explain 2000 years of theology... If you bear with me, I will do my best to explain my point of view. Of course you don't have to agree with any of it, but if you consider it with an open mind, then you will know where you stand. And of course, by all means, feel free to respond with your point of view and if you feel you are right and I am wrong, try to convince me of your views. That's what this thread is all about. That what I meant it to be anyway. I'll have to come back to this; I'm a little tired and been on my computer too long, but I will definitely answer your question. In the meantime, if you want to understand what the Catholic Church teaches, follow this link .... http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-te...techism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm BTW don't expect to read it all in one sitting, it's a massive work of over 800 pages...
Holy mother of Christ. The Sound of Music? This is the greatest troll job in the history of the Internet and whatever was before the Internet. BTW, The Lord of the Rings was not a documentary. _
