Religion - a respectful discussion, for those interested

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  1. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Did you hear anything rattle?
     
  2. JStokes

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    The hypocrisy of our naive juvenile evangelist should not surprise anyone.

    Discount hundreds of articles from a hundred different sources describing rampant sexual of children molestation by priests.

    But let's all believe what that religious zealot Pierre writes to sell books.

    The Catholic Church and their most vociferous band of lemmings, biggest gathering of hypocrites known to mankind.


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  3. Royal Tee

    Royal Tee Girls juss wanna have fun
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    Per request...the thread will stay open but just remember,
    When someone posts something juvenile...ignore it and continue with an adult, mature discussion.
    By constantly responding to an immature post is just as bad as the post itself.


    That said, keep your big boy pants on :)
     
  4. The Waterboy

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    Well we better keep our big boy pants on because from what truth told us masturbation is bad for our health, as well as sex if we aren't married. I should be dead by now.
     
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    Royal Tee Girls juss wanna have fun
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    I chose getting stoned ;)
     
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  6. Truth4U2

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    "Cardinal Dolan won me over even before he handed me this award. And Cardinal, your dynamic personality and good humor make you an excellent leader for the Archdiocese of New York and for our entire city, so thank you for all you do.”"

    It was an evening of good humor, friendly banter, beautiful music courtesy of Tony award wining actress and singer Laura Benanti, and serious commitment to New York City’s neediest as some 800 friends and benefactors filled the Grand Ballroom at the Waldorf-Astoria in Manhattan May 27 for the annual archdiocesan Catholic Charities Gala Benefit that at press time had raised $2.1 million.

    Cardinal Dolan told those in attendance that some $2 million had been raised to support the Catholic agency that provides vital services to New Yorkers in need, Catholic and non-Catholic alike."

    “For decades and decades the pope always has a general audience. He had it today. About 50,000 people come to St. Peter’s Square to see him. And at the end of the audience he would meet, oh maybe 50-60 people. Those are coveted tickets, so state leaders, very influential, prestigious people. You know what had changed? Now every Wednesday, four of those homeless people are in the front row to meet Pope Francis. What’s happened, everybody, is Pope Francis has reminded us that the poor are front and center in the Church. Jesus was the one who taught that.”

    And that, the cardinal acknowledged, has been the core of what Catholic Charities has been about in this city for decades."

    Over the years at various Catholic Charities events I’ve had the opportunity to hear Mayor Giuliani, and later Mayor Bloomberg, underscore how essential the work of Catholic Charities is to serving New York’s most needy and how our city and surrounding counties rely on Catholic Charities to deliver critical services,” he said. “Creating hope and opportunity for people less fortunate than ourselves is what fundamentally drives all our family’s charitable efforts and it’s the common bond we all share this evening.”

    http://cny.org/stories/Catholic-Charities-Gala-Raises-21-Million-for-New-Yorks-Neediest,12745


    You won't see stories like this reported in the mainstream media. It doesn't fit their agenda. This is just one example....the Catholic Church does so much good that goes unreported by the likes of CNN and the NY Times. They go for headline-grabbing sensationalism, scandal, and bad news.
     
  7. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    So an all-knowing and omnipotent being, who created everything we know and is responsible for everything we do is somehow powerless in the face of the mainstream media. Ain't that some shit?
     
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    et cum spiritu tuo
     
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    o altitudo divitiarum sapientiae et scientiae Dei quam inconprehensibilia sunt iudicia eius et investigabiles viae eius

    Romans 11:33
     
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    I do believe translated that means, "Next Monday June 22nd is No Panty Day".
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  11. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Do you usually wear them the other 364? (J/K!)
     
  12. Ralebird

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    I have posted NO images and the only links I have posted were those that directly belied your specious claims. You have posted no "well-accepted facts" and have documented nothing, only those "facts" you have been brainwashed into believing; your acceptance and dissemination of preposterous stories says nothing for your ability to determine "truth." Have you finally come to understand that there have been thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of pedophile priests in the last decade alone or do you continue to put your fingers in your ears and intone "nah, nah, nah" as long as the real truth is being spoken?
     
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    Whatever.
     
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    "Truth": I would especially draw your attention to the paragraph beginning with "(2)"

    "When is lying a mortal sin?
    Posted on 17 February 2011 by Ron Conte
    Lying is intrinsically evil. Every intrinsically evil act is always immoral because the act is, by its very nature, contrary to the moral law. But not every intrinsically evil act is a mortal sin. Some intrinsically evil acts are venial sins; other intrinsically evil acts are mortal sins.
    Lying is sometimes a venial sin and other times a mortal sin. The three fonts of morality determine if a sin is venial or mortal. If any one or more fonts is gravely disordered, meaning gravely contrary to the love of God or the love of neighbor as self, then the act is objectively a mortal sin. If the act is a sin, but none of the fonts of morality are gravely disordered, then the sin is only venial.
    The three fonts [or sources] of morality are: (1) intention, (2) moral object, (3) circumstances. If any one font is bad, the act is a sin. If all three fonts are good, the act is moral.
    Lying is intrinsically evil, and therefore it is immoral due to its moral object, in the second font. Lying is a sin regardless of intention or circumstances because it has an evil moral object. So even if the intention is good, or the consequences (in the circumstances) are good, the act is still a sin.
    (1) If a lie includes a gravely disordered intended end, such as sending an innocent person to prison, doing serious harm to the reputation of another person, or any other gravely immoral intention, then the lie becomes a mortal sin, due to the intention.
    (2) If the lie has a gravely immoral object, then the lie would be a mortal sin. The gravity of the disorder in the object depends on the moral weight of the truth being denied, or distorted (including the extent of the distortion). When the denial of a particular truth, or the distortion of a particular truth, is entirely incompatible with the love of God and neighbor, then it is a mortal sin due to a gravely immoral object. For example, to lie about a grave matter of faith or morals would have a gravely disordered object. Whereas to lie to someone about a small matter would have a disordered object, but would not be gravely disordered. So-called ‘white lies’ are generally venial sins (unless the term is being misapplied).
    If the act of lying is a venial sin, having nothing gravely disordered in any font, the act becomes a mortal sin if there is a second moral object, one that is gravely immoral. For example, to lie about a small matter is usually venial sin. But if one were to lie about that same small matter while under oath (in any relevant matter), the lie becomes a mortal sin due to the second moral object, the breaking of an oath. In other words, a venial lie becomes a mortal lie because it is also perjury.
    (3) If the bad consequences of the lie will gravely outweigh, in terms of morality, the good consequences, as these consequences can be reasonably anticipated at the time that the lie is told, then the lie would be a mortal sin due to the circumstances.
    “The gravity of a lie is measured against the nature of the truth it deforms, the circumstances, the intentions of the one who lies, and the harm suffered by its victims. If a lie in itself only constitutes a venial sin, it becomes mortal when it does grave injury to the virtues of justice and charity.” (CCC, n. 2484).
    The nature of the truth that a lie deforms pertains to the moral object in the second font. The harm suffered by anyone due to the lie, in so far as this harm can be reasonably anticipated, is in the circumstances, the third font. The intentions of the person who lies is in the first font. So the gravity of a lie depends on the three fonts of morality.
    Most of the lies that people often tell in their lives, we may charitably assume, are venial lies. No number of venial sins can add up to a mortal sin. But the more that one commits venial sin without repentance, the closer one moves to eventually committing a mortal sin. Also, if a person continually tells venial lies, with no regard for truth whatsoever, he may well have committed a mortal sin, interiorly, by completely abandoning truth — even if each and all of his particular lies are venial.
    [Ephesians]
    {4:25} Because of this, setting aside lying, speak the truth, each one with his neighbor. For we are all part of one another."
     
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    Politicians understand the importance and influence of the church? Yep, they sure do. They understand that the votes they might lose by not talking to the church can cost them elections. Don't act like this makes the Catholic Church special. They meet with hundreds of faith leaders and special interest groups because their endorsement means votes.
     
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    So basically Truth has been continually committing mortal sins by denying the existence of the clergy sex crimes?
     
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    I am the all wise and ever knowing Nostra-Thomas, bow before me, and if you make false idols to other fabulous imposters such as myself, i will increase media exposure of headache Caitlyn Jenner 10 fold, now fuckin' bow and praise me!!
     
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    If the shoe fits...

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    Hey Truth, hate to break it to you but your good buddy Gov. Cuomo ducked out of the most recent Catholic Church-sponsored Al Smith Dinner to go to a birthday party for Rev. Al.
     
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    Isn't divorce frowned upon by the Catholic Church?

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