Funny thing is, Catholic priests don't need porn, they just fuck little kids to get their jollies. Maybe if priests stuck to porn instead of raping little boys there would be a lot less severely damaged people walking around today. _
I think you missed the arc of the narrative. First, Science has proven the existence of God. Second, well, actually, science can't DISPROVE the existence of God. Therefore GOD. Oh, and the God of the Catholic Church is the bestest. I just got back from one of the bastions of Catholicism in the world and it's not hard to understand how pervasive the incredible awful influence the Church had and how browbeaten the weak minded followers of the Catholic Church were. There are at least 3 or 4 churches in even the smallest of hilltop towns in Italy and the larger towns have not 1, sometimes two but often 3 or 4 massive Duomos or cathedrals within blocks of each other. People never stood a chance against that army of misinformation and power grabbing criminals. It's funny how the sheep today still follow all the talking points their church elders continue to ram down their throats. _
"Patient Perseverance Be patient with yourself. Remember that the wounds you have received didn’t come about overnight, and the healing won’t take place overnight also. It takes time, perseverance, and determination. “Have patience with all things,” urges St. Francis de Sales, “but chiefly have patience with yourself. Do not lose courage in considering your own imperfections but instantly set about remedying them—every day begin the task anew.” http://theporneffect.com/perseverance/ #Wisdom.
Just 3 days ago. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/catholi...andal-japan-allegations-ex-students-st-marys/ Catholic sex abuse scandal hits unlikely country TOKYO -- The Roman Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal has stretched into one of the least Catholic countries: Japan, where former students at a prestigious all-boys parochial school allege they were molested or raped by religious brothers who taught there decades ago. Three former students at St. Mary's International School in Tokyo told The Associated Press they were sexually abused by brothers there. One described "health checkups" in which a brother touched boys' testicles. Another says he was raped in the chapel by two brothers at age 11. That former student received an in-person apology from one of the men, Brother Lawrence Lambert, in 2014. The former student's account of the meeting suggests Lambert might have initially confused him with yet another victim whose assault went unreported. The former student said the school sent Lambert away after the 1965 attack, only to have him return to serve as elementary-school principal for nearly two decades. Allegations from former students have been published in an English-language Tokyo newspaper but otherwise have received little attention in Japan. There are only about 500,000 Catholics in the country of 127 million, and the school is aimed at foreigners like the three former students rather than Japanese. Many sex-abuse victims choose not to come forward in conservative Japan. Unlike in the U.S., in Japan victims must press charges for cases to proceed. Japan's statute of limitations is 10 years for rape and seven years for sexual assault. School officials say they reported the chapel rape allegations to Tokyo police when the victim approached them in 2013. Yet Tokyo police spokesman Satoru Matsunaga said there were no records of the case in their files and no investigation is ongoing. Though the victim said his family made St. Mary's aware of the attack in 1965, Saburo Kagei, who has headed the school since 2013, said he had been unaware of them. In October 2014, St. Mary's set up an investigative panel to look into sex abuse at the school. Their findings are not ready, and the head of the panel declined to comment. Kagei acknowledged Lambert's apology without confirming the attack or any other sexual abuse. "The last thing we would want any child to go through is any kind of harm," he said. "We want to uphold and take care of the children who are placed in our care." Founded by the Brothers of Christian Instruction in 1954, St. Mary's runs from first to 12th grade. Its 900 students hail from 60 countries, and it boasts having 13,500 alumni. It bills itself as the "most prestigious international school for boys." The Archdiocese of Tokyo declined to comment, saying St. Mary's is handling the matter. Conrad Lord, a lawyer for The Brothers of Christian Instruction, which runs St. Mary's, said Lambert's apology had been obtained by "coercion," and that both brothers were wrongfully accused, but declined to comment further. The Vatican does not get involved in specific cases. Brother Albert Heinrich, who heads the brotherhood in the U.S. and taught at St. Mary's in the 1980s, said he learned of the abuse only in recent years. "I had no knowledge at that time of any alleged problems at the school," he said in an email from Alfred, Maine. Religious brothers are not ordained as priests, but take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience and work in a variety of ministries, including education. Teja Arboleda, 53, a former St. Mary's student who says he was sexually abused by a brother in the mid-1970s, said students at the time "were told not to say anything. Otherwise, they would do something bad to us." Arboleda, a movie producer, is working on a documentary about sex-abuse survivors at Catholic schools around the world, including St. Mary's, titled "Ring Around the Collar." "Most of them will not talk about it for the rest of their lives. Many of them are in denial," he said in a telephone interview from Dedham, Massachusetts. "People, I think, often believe this only takes place in the United States because Americans are much more vocal." Arboleda says he was sexually abused by a brother who died in 1980. Ferdinand Stoer, another former St. Mary's student, said he was abused by the same teacher. Stoer, 56, said his class of about 30 students underwent a health checkup in which they were told to take off all their clothes; then the brother touched their testicles while they coughed. He was not a medical doctor. "It was weird," said Stoer, who lives in Sacramento, California, and like Arboleda agreed to have his name published. Some of the boys talked about it among themselves, but he did not tell his parents, and the checkup was not taken up as a problem at the school at that time. In fall 2014, Stoer and some other alumni received an email in which Kagei acknowledged sex abuse allegations had been made against former teachers. Stoer assumed it was about the checkups. In fact, the email was sent after the former student who said he was raped began reaching out to school and church officials and authorities in Japan and Canada. Police in Quebec, where the Brothers of Christian Instruction are based, said they have no jurisdiction over crimes in Japan. No lawsuits have been filed over any of the allegations. Now 61, the former student believes he deserves compensation but has little hope that will happen. "Nothing can be done," he told the AP. "They decided to do nothing." The AP generally does not identify victims of sexual abuse who do not wish to be named. The former student remembers many details of the rape, down to what his mother had made him for lunch that day: rollmops, or pickled herring held with wooden skewers. He is Jewish, and the school lunches served at St. Mary's weren't kosher. He decided to eat alone, in the chapel. The two brothers walked in, making signs of the cross, and announced he had to be punished for eating there. He was forced to face a table. His pants were pulled down. He was quiet. He thought maybe he was going to be spanked. He didn't know what was happening. All he remembers is the pain. One brother raped him, and then the other man pulled his T-shirt over his head and raped him again. When he was finally alone, he looked down and saw he had been clenching his fist so hard a rollmops skewer had stabbed through the skin of his palm. He did not tell anyone, but his family's maid found his bloodied underwear in the laundry. He initially refused to tell his parents who attacked him, but finally said he could not tell because "Brother Lawrence" might do the same thing to his 4-year-old brother. The former student said his family did not pursue charges but demanded that Lambert be kept away from children. They were told he was reassigned to Canada after the rape. Decades later, he learned that Lambert returned to St. Mary's, serving as principal of its elementary school from 1982 until retiring in 2011. After that, he lived at a brothers' residence in Japan. The Brothers of Christian Instruction declined to reveal Lambert's current whereabouts; Kagei said in his 2014 letter to alumni that he was no longer in Japan. The AP found the second brother the former student accuses of rape, at a Japanese school in Yokohama where he continues to teach. He declined to comment. The former student left Japan with his family back to his native Australia soon after the rape. He did not return until January 2014, when he met Lambert in Tokyo. The meeting was set in a synagogue with a rabbi present. The former student did not feel safe anywhere else. Lambert, accompanied by a fellow brother, brought two letters of apology. He read them aloud and signed them at the meeting. The former student was also handed a letter from Kagei's predecessor as school head, who apologized on the school's behalf without confirming any specific allegations. That official, also a brother, did not come to the meeting and did not lead the school at the time of the alleged rape. "The simple truth is that still today I cannot understand the fact that I raped you," one of Lambert's letters read. "It was the first time that I did that in my life, and I did not do that again. I was on my way to my bedroom upstairs when I saw you and saw nothing wrong with talking to you on the way. But then somehow passion suddenly took over..." That account did not match the victim's at all. An explanation might be found in Lambert's reaction when he first saw the former student at the start of the meeting. "Oh," he recalled Lambert saying, "you were the one in the chapel." _
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You're the biggest troll on here, that's obvious to everyone but yourself. You are trapped in your own little world, like a man living in a cave who is unaware of the beauty, joy, and love just outside...I have to remember to keep you in my prayers. Really, that's not some kind of dig. ...but just keep on trying to perpetuate the myth that Priests "rape children" if that helps you to feel better about yourself. Thankfully few believe that lie anymore.
"A Bit of Key Background: What are the Facts? The facts—what actually happened—are sometimes difficult to discern. These can be partially shrouded in the mists of history. People offer differing accounts. There are certainly motivations to lie or distort—abusing a child is a serious crime and serious moral failing. But there are also motivations to falsely accuse—individuals can gain significant sums of money in settlements; individuals can have a political agenda against the church, or individuals may even deny that they have abused when they actually have been, to avoid their feelings of shame or embarassment—or even to protect their abuser. The reporting of abuse and deciding what actually has occurred is, again, no simple matter." William O’Donohue, Ph.D. Olga Cirlugea, B.A. Lorraine Benuto, Ph.D. Department of Psychology University of Nevada, Reno http://www.catholicleague.org/some-...sexual-abuse-scandal-and-the-catholic-church/
Holy shit. The fucking Pope apologized for the rape of little children by Catholic priests. If it didn't happen, why the need to apologize? Thousands of catholic priests CONVICTED of sexual abuse of children. Thousands. CONVICTED. But it didn't happen. Kind of feel sorry for the poor weak minded sheep that lap up the talking points handed down from church elders. Not an original thought in their heads. So sad. _
You go read bullshit books by followers fed the bullshit--I'll take the word of the man himself. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-bishops-who-covered-up-for-abuse-guilty-of-wrongdoing/ Pope makes unprecedented statement on sex abuse scandal ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE -- Pope Francis has defended his words of consolation to U.S. bishops over the priest sex abuse scandal but says - for the first time - that those who covered up for abusers are guilty of wrongdoing. In a wide-ranging press conference en route to Rome from his first-ever visit to the United States, Francis also declared conscience objection a "human right," explained his love affair with American nuns and discussed his own star-power, which was fully on display during his six-day, three-city tour. Play VIDEO Pope Francis meets U.S. clergy sex abuse victims He also invented a new Italian word to describe the exuberant reception he received in New York City: "stralimitata" - roughly, "beyond all limits." In the 47-minute exchange with reporters on his plane shortly after take-off from Philadelphia, Francis called sexual abuse by priests "a sacrilege," CBS News correspondent Allen Pizzey reports. As for victims and relatives who cannot forgive abusive priests, Francis said he fully understood. "I pray for them," Francis said. "I do not judge someone who is not able to forgive." On his last day in the U.S., Francis on Sunday met with five abuse survivors of sexual abuse and issued a warning to bishops that they would be held accountable if they failed to protect their flocks. "Those who covered this up are guilty," he said. "There are even some bishops who covered this up. It's something horrible." While the Vatican has cracked down on priests who rape and molest children in recent years, it has long been accused of turning a blind eye to the bishops who moved abusers around rather than report them to police. Francis has agreed to create a tribunal in the Vatican to prosecute these bishops for abuse of office and has accepted the resignations of three U.S. bishops who mishandled abuse cases. Francis defended his words of consolation to U.S. bishops in Washington earlier in the week, saying he wanted to acknowledge that they had suffered too. Advocates for victims had denounced his praise as tone-deaf. "The words of comfort weren't to say 'Don't worry, it's nothing.' No, no, no. It was that 'It was so awful, and I imagine that you have wept so much,'" he said. On Sunday, Francis directed his attention to the victims of abuse themselves, meeting with five survivors, including people who had been molested not only by priests but also abused by family members or educators. He apologized to them that often their accusations weren't taken seriously and promised to hold bishops accountable. Play VIDEO Pope Francis ends historic U.S. trip with prayer, promises He recalled that in his previous meeting with survivors of sex abuse, in July 2014, one told him that her mother had lost her faith and died an atheist after learning that a priest had violated her child. "I understand this woman. I understand, and God who is better than me understands," Francis said. "And I am sure that God received this woman. Because what was groped and destroyed was her flesh, the flesh of her daughter. I understand. I cannot judge someone who cannot forgive." Philadelphia has been at the center of American Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal. Monsignor William Lynn of Philadelphia was the first U.S. church official ever convicted in the handling of abuse complaints. But a state appeals court ruled Dec. 26 that the state's child-endangerment law in the late 1990s did not apply to supervisors like Lynn. In another issue pressing on the American church, Francis was asked about the case of Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk jailed for several days after she refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples despite the Supreme Court's ruling making same-sex marriage legal nationwide. Davis said such marriages violate her Apostolic Christian faith. Francis said he didn't know the case in detail, but he upheld conscience objection as a human right. "It is a right. And if a person does not allow others to be a conscientious objector, he denies a right," Francis said. Francis said he was surprised by the warmth of the welcome he received in the U.S. despite criticism from conservatives over his environmental and economic messages. "In Washington, it was a warm welcome, but a bit more formal," Francis said. "In New York, a bit 'beyond all limits.'" "In Philadelphia, very expressive. Different ways, but the same welcome." He said he was also impressed by the piety of Americans and gave thanks there were no incidents during the trip. "No provocations, no challenges," he said. "They were all well-behaved, normal. No insults, nothing bad." Conservative American commentators had been deeply critical of Francis' priorities prior to the trip, blasting his eco-focus as flawed and even criticizing his decision to streamline the church's annulment process by saying it amounted to a "Catholic divorce." Francis denied the change would facilitate divorce, saying it merely simplified the church's process for determining if a marriage was valid. Francis once again pronounced his love for American nuns, saying they had worked "marvels" in education and health care in the United States and were simply "great." "The people of the United States love their sisters," Francis said. "I don't know how much they love their priests, but they love their nuns. And they are great. They are great, great women." His praise was noteworthy, given the Vatican under his predecessor had launched a crackdown on the largest umbrella group of U.S. sisters, accusing them of straying from orthodoxy and not emphasizing doctrine enough. Under Francis, the takeover ended two years early without any major changes. A separate Vatican investigation into the quality of life of America's sisters similarly ended up thanking them for their selfless service. Francis on two occasions during the trip gave the sisters public recognition and thanks. He also visited with one group of nuns, the Little Sisters of the Poor, who have challenged the Obama administration's health care insurance mandate. After speeches in Congress and at the United Nations, and deeply moving gestures visiting with the homeless, immigrants, prison inmates and schoolchildren, it was suggested to Francis that he had become something of a "star" in America. Francis dismissed the idea, saying power is a passing thing, and that true power is to serve others. "I must still go forward on this path of service because I feel like I haven't done all I can," he said. And besides, he said, stars eventually fade away. "Being a servant to the servant of God is beautiful. And it doesn't fade away." © 2015 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. _
How naive are you?!?! (or blinded by your irrational hate for the Church?) Our culture has become secular and relativistic to the extreme, at least in the media; hollywood, TV, etc. The Catholic Church defends societal values, protecting the unborn, healthy societal influences, etc, while radical individualists want to hold on to their "license to kill"; not just literally as in the case of the unborn, but the license to kill themselves emotionally and spiritually (and sometimes even physically, as in the case of AIDS and other diseases) just so they can "get their jollies" whenever and however their physical urges lead them. They become slaves to their physical urges, like an animal. They lose the dignity of free choice that their humanity provides. So, the Church opposes the dominant "dictatorship of relativism", making it a target. So the Pope is forced politically to say things off the cuff to appease these dictators in the media, even before a proper investigation has concluded. #Modern Day Witchhunt ...meanwhile, innocent priests are victimized by haters trying to extort large sums of money from the Church. Of course the Pope can't say these things publicly, given the political climate of the day.
OK I won't, that way you can continue to spew your hateful lies unchallenged. But seriously, go TROLL somewhere else! This is the only thread where I am allowed to discuss religion.
The Pope lied and blasphemed the Church to appease the media. Hahahahahaaaaaaa how weakminded. Maybe he got a whiff of this: http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/PriestDBbylastName-A.html _
....ah, there it is, "weakminded", one of the empty "talking points" recited by those opposed to religion. By that "logic", all those who research work done before them, including all college and university students, are also "weakminded sheep"? Can't they "think for themselves"? lol
