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  1. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    About what?
     
  2. TommyJ

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    love this quote form the scumbag, like enough time has passed to wipe out any wrong doing. grisly train of thought.

    “This whole thing makes no sense, because the crime in question took place in 1960,” Mr. Feit said, sounding hoarse and tired.
     
  3. The Waterboy

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    That quote sounds exactly like something Truth would say, must be part of the indoctrination.
     
  4. JStokes

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    Was just talking to my younger brother. A retired Marine fighter pilot and an ex-altar boy as a kid.

    So I tell him I gave up wine for Lent and asked him what he gave up.

    He said "I stopped giving up shit a long time ago. If priests aren't going to stop fucking little kids during Lent, why should I give up anything?"

    True story.

    And that's coming from a patriot and a non-buggered altar boy.

    Kind of like a melding of science and theology.

    I wonder what that Jesus freak has to say about that research.

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  5. ChrebetCrunch

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    "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. Matthew 6:5
     
  6. JStokes

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    How the fuck does the Pope and the Vatican explain this?

    And before that jerkoff comes here and again lies that this is all made up--he was CONVICTED and admitted to sexually abusing the girls.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d68f...lifts-ban-indian-priest-convicted-sex-assault

    Church lifts ban of Indian priest convicted of sex assault

    Feb. 13, 2016 2:28 PM EST

    NEW DELHI (AP) — The Roman Catholic church in southern India has lifted the suspension of a priest convicted last year of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl in the United States more than a decade ago, a spokesman said Saturday.

    The suspension of the Rev. Joseph Palanivel Jeyapaul was lifted last month after the bishop of the Ootacamund Diocese in India's Tamil Nadu state consulted with church authorities at the Vatican, said the Rev. Sebastian Selvanathan, a spokesman for the diocese.

    Bishop Arulappan Amalraj of Ootacamund had referred Jeyapaul's case to the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and the suspension was lifted on the church body's advice, Selvanathan said.

    "After Jeyapaul's release from the United States and his return to India, this matter was referred to Rome, and according to the guidelines of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the suspension against Jeyapaul was removed," Selvanathan said.

    The Vatican office of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith declined immediate comment.

    Jeyapaul was sent to Minnesota in 2004 and served at the Blessed Sacrament Church in Greenbush, near the Canadian border.

    He was suspended in 2010 after being charged with sexually assaulting two girls who were both 14 at the time of the alleged abuse.

    Jeyapaul fled the United States, but was arrested in India by Interpol in 2012 and extradited to the U.S. Jeyapaul pleaded guilty to molesting one of the teenagers who hasn't been identified publicly. The charges involving sexual abuse of the second teenager, Megan Peterson, were dropped as part of a plea deal. Peterson accused Jeyapaul of raping her in his office in a statement posted under her name on the website of The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, which has advocated for victims' rights.

    Jeyapaul, now 61, was sentenced to a year in jail, but was freed on account of time served while awaiting trial.

    Jeyapaul returned to India five months ago, and the process to lift the suspension was started soon after, Selvanathan said.

    Bishop Amalraj lifted the suspension in mid-January, but Jeyapaul has not yet been assigned any responsibilities, Selvanathan said. "That will be decided in May, when decisions are taken by the diocese on changes and assignments," he said.

    Jeyapaul could not be contacted, with Selvanathan saying the church did not know his whereabouts.

    The two Minnesota women both sued the Diocese of Crookston, Minnesota, and settled out of court.

    Attorney Jeff Anderson of St. Paul, Minnesota, who represented the women, criticized church authorities for lifting Jeyapaul's suspension.

    "The Vatican must be held accountable. ... This is on them. This is on the pope," Anderson said.

    While Peterson has spoken publicly about her case before in hopes that it would help others, Anderson said she was too upset to comment Saturday.

    "They're both quite upset, disturbed and feel deeply betrayed that they would have the audacity to consider even putting him back in ministry," Anderson said. "To use Megan's words, 'They'll never get it and I'm feeling re-victimized.'"

    Anderson, who has represented hundreds of victims of sexual abuse by clergy, said they're exploring further legal action over the decision to lift Jeyapaul's suspension and will announce details soon.

    "We're not going to let this go. We're not going to stand silent," Anderson said.

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    Associated Press writers Steve Karnowski in Minneapolis and Colleen Barry in Milan, Italy, contributed to this report.
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  7. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    He was only sentenced to one year for raping a 14 year old girl in his office? What am I missing here?
     
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    Must have been some type of plea deal. Also as part of that deal they didn't prosecute on the second rape.

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  9. Dierking

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    All right, well, then, he served his sentence and paid his debt to society. I can't see any reason why he shouldn't be able to pursue his chosen vocation. If he was really a menace to society, shame on us for letting him off so lightly.
     
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    Whoa whoa whoa.

    He paid his debt to society but his vocation involves caring for, supporting, protecting his flock.

    Not fucking it.

    Can a teacher who sexually abused a kid become a teacher of children again? After serving his or her time?

    Can a doctor still practice medicine after raping a patient?

    The Pope, the Vatican, the Church was said to have been cracking down on child abuse.

    To reinstate a rapist is not in line with what they've said they were going to do.

    He can get a job again. Check out at Walmart, pumping gas, short order cook.

    He can't be a priest again.

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    Jesus has some very strong words for corrupt religious leaders who abused their position. He called them sons of hell ... among many other things. They are not true followers if God.
     
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    catholicism, great organization there. oh and how they've evolved over time, they're so remarkable and "transcendant" of god. they graduated from lopping heads
    to banging kids. maybe the banging kids thing was there all along, wouldnt surprise me a bit.
    what a bunch of charlatans. and these arrogant corrupt clergy! how can you have anything but contempt for these windbagging phonies? yeah sure, theyre' the only way to God. they have a hammerlock on being the middleman to heaven, and without them, and without giving them money you wont make it into the club.
    the world just may have a chance to get along if all of these hocus pocus religions just disappeared, talk about stunting our evolution. go away, please!
    p.s.- i love this thread, i seriously do. its high entertainment and informative at the same time.
     
  13. ChrebetCrunch

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    Who cares what Jesus said?
     
  14. Dierking

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    Poor fella's gotta be pretty hoarse by now, I'd imagine.
     
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    haa haa! he's had it with christians by now.
    his message was so simple, do unto others as you'd have done to yourself, and look for the kingdom of heaven within. and that's it people!
    it doesn't need to be interpreted, examined, or spun, everything the people have tacked on to this great message is simply embroidery, its so stupid.
     
  16. The Great American

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    Are you saying Jesus never had any controversial or difficult sayings? So have you eaten His flesh lately?
     
  17. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    ^ We were not around to hear what Jesus said, and neither were any of the actual authors of the New Testament. The accuracy of stories handed down orally for generations before they are committed to paper is dubious.

    There is some cold blooded shit attributable to Jesus in the NT, but none of us really know what he was saying. It's kind of like why you can't use science to justify faith.
     
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    The bible is self evidently a collection of different books written at different times, in different styles by different people.
    It’s entirely of human origin. Written by men, put together by men. Some books got in, some books did not.
    All editorial decisions were made by men for the purpose of controlling other, men.
     
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    GA, what do you think about this?
     
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