Read Between The Lines: Tannenbaum's Take On Chad

first off, Ihatethedolphins-see the screename lol, 2nd off, who is the Tim Duncan of this years draft? There is no reggie bush, no mario williams, no peyton manning, there isnt a clear #1....i can never root for us to have a high draft pick, i will never root for the jets to lose, remember a strong finish to this season=momentum into next season...see the greenbay packers

 

i think that's unfair. he played well last year. something has happened. just not sure what. maybe the o-line.

 

I hope Mangini doesn't wait for the buy week to make the switch, but I can see wanting to leverage the extra week to prepare Clemens. Of course, it might not be smart to throw him in against another elite defense (Pittsburgh) for his 2nd game. Clemens really should be put in for the softer Cincy & Buffalo defenses, before having to go up against Washington or Pitt. If Chad struggles in the first half this week, I can see the Clemens era beginning at half time in Cincy.

 

It sucks to already be thinking in terms of next season....but its good to see someone actually coming and saying Chad has to play better. It was tiring hearing everyone get the blame except for the qb and coaches decision making, which IMO were 2 things I never imagined would be an issue.

I wonder what the plan is in store for the QB transition? Of course the bye week theory has some merit in getting him 2 weeks to prepare while giving the Oline precious time to get there act together....but could they possibly really still be toying with the impression that Chad can be there qb for the rest of the year??

After ignoring the holes on the Oline as well as other holes on this team I don't know what to think....all I know is this plan needs to make football somewhat entertaining for me in the next few weeks. Our offense is just sad.

 

If we haven't scored a TD by half time, he better sit Chad. 8 straight quarters without a TD is horrific.

 

Pennington use to have the ability to really shred poor defensives which always made his stats look pretty good at the end of the day. If he doesn't lead us to 5 scores this Sunday it will be a true indicator that he just lost ability to be a field general. To that end he will play the whole game if healthy, and afterward...we'll see.

 

2 straight quarters against the Bengals without scoring is just as horrific.

 

If the Jets are down 17-6 at halftime why wouldn't Mangini bench Chad at that point? The odds on the Jets winning the game are low but the odds on them winning from that point with Chad at QB are basically close to non-existent. Isn't it the job of every NFL head coach to do his best to win the game?

This Chad loyalty thing just has me totally flabbergasted at this point. He's not a failing Joe Namath who was literally the face of the franchise. He's not a struggling Drew Bledsoe, circa 2000, who was a top 5 pick and lead the Pats to their first Super Bowl in a generation, hell, he's not even a Vinny Testaverde who alternated between mediocre and great seasons for most of his career and always had the potential to bring his team back from virtually any deficit. He's a guy who won 10 games with the Jets twice and 9 games twice and a few playoff games. That's ALL he is.

Have the Jets become such a mediocrity over their long existence that we need to cling to people who never were stars? I mean what's going on here?

I feel like I'm rooting for a second tier team that has no aspirations to ever be any better than that.

 

He could get 100 tackles, which is outstanding for a corner. Not one CB did that last year.

 

I couldn't have said it better myself. Chad had his moments but there is no reason that he should be immortalized the way he is by a large number of the Fans.

 

With all due respect, that's not ALL he is. He HAS been the face of the franchise for the past four years. He has come back from several pretty severe injuries and done everything the team has asked him to do and more, including taking pay cuts and competing for his job in an open competition last year, without one complaint. He's been the epitome of what you want in a football player in terms of work ethic, leadership, intelligence and conduct on and off the field.

Unfortunately, I also agree that he is not physically capable enough to be an NFL quarterback any more, BUT...I think he deserves every chance to prove that he can still do it and that he's not shot.

 

Jets Fan Nightmare....

Pennington goes for 296 and 3 scores.

 

Everyone seems to agree that “Pennington has earned the benefit of the doubt”. I’m just wondering what he has done to earn this?

Besides 8 great games in 02 before the league had any tape on him – what has he done other than let down this organization? Some people around here speak of Pennington as if he is anything more than a 500 starting quarterback who is injury prone and ended up being a has been that never did anything.

F Chadwick - start KC.

 

I'm starting to wonder if maybe Clemens is getting a lot of the first-team snaps during the week, because Chad only works well doing what he does when he's in a rhythm and the past few weeks he has had none, and it shows. He's now losing sync with Coles, his favorite target, and has looked like a marked man for weeks. Every time a drive stalls, Pennington goes to the sideline looking red as a plum. I think Chad's being transitioned out of the starting job, a process that started weeks ago, just not fast enough to the liking of Jets fans.

 

I'm sorry I'm not buying that. Until 2005 Curtis Martin was the face of the Jets. If not him then Mawae or John Abraham. You know, the guys who actually went to the Pro Bowl on a regular basis? There was no point where Chad was the defining player on this team, and the fact that they always had really crappy backup QB's doesn't change that fact.

This Chad stuff is ridiculous. As a longterm fan I can tell you that in 20 years we will remember almost nothing about what he did for the Jets because he never lead them to a context where any of it mattered. The Pittsburgh game in the divisionals? We'll remember O'Brien's misses, and for good reason given that Chad himself did squat in that game. There'll be a "Where are they now?" segment on Chad and they'll have a few highlights from 2002 and a few shots of Chad walking off the field holding his shoulder. That's just how it works.

I keep looking at all the Chad sentiment and what I'm thinking is "Save Ferris Bueller!"

 

A full blown Disaster if this happens. We might have to wait until Dallas Humiliates him on Thanksgiving.

 

I agree 100% - I would argue that the face of the franchise has never been Pennington, and it only appeared that it would be in 2002 - once he got injured in 2003, it was clearly Martin, and last year it was Mangini. It is only on a bad franchise that he would have been considered anything more than a serviceable, slightly above average, NFL QB, and he is obviously not that any longer.