Re-envisioning Revis And His Role In Rex's Defense

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  1. guinness77

    guinness77 Active Member

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    You cannot compare Lott to Revis just for the reasons I stated a few minutes ago. A good comparison for Revis is that he's a better version of Aaron Glenn, who was also a corner. You just cannot play this man at safety. It's not his position. It never will be. His dimensions are just not suited for S. You'd be wasting his talents playing him there.
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  2. guinness77

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    Ed Reed has been a safety his whole career. Ed Reed cannot cover the way Revis does. The Lott comparison makes no sense.
    We have no consistent pass rush. We also are having problems adjusting to life without Jimmy Leonhard. Those are our 2 biggest problems right now.
     
  3. MBGreen

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    dude...they're burning us in the middle of the field....Opposing OCs are keying in on our nickel CB in the slot (whether it's Coleman or Wilson) and they're looking for their TE/HBs being covered by our LBs.

    Rex's scheme relies on exotic blitzes, an effective pass rush and man-to-man coverage from the secondary. When we lost Jenkins in week 1....that fucked up a lot of what Rex wanted to do (Jenkins swallows up blockers, usually 2 at a time)... He had to rely on smoke n' mirrors again, like last season....the only problem is.....opposing teams have clued in on it THIS season. Plus, losing Leonhard was a huge blow too.

    I'm all for thinking outside the box, but Revis to the Safety position is ridiculous....c'mon now.
     
  4. Darth Vader

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    You are confusing Lott's Shoulder pads with his real size. I am not comparing the player's styles, rather the career paths. Lott was an All-Pro CB -- he was drafted as a CB -- that transitioned into FS.

    I am comparing Revis' skill set to Ed Reed's.

    And BTW u couldnt be more wrong:

    Ronnie Lott - 6'0" 203
    Revis - 6'0" 205
    Glenn - 5'9" 183
     
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    Sorry Darth, but the more I think about it, I'd rather have Andre Johnson shut down than Owen Daniels, rather have Reggie Wayne shut down than Jacob Tamme, rather have Anquan Boldin shut down than Todd Heap, rather have Calvin Johnson shut down than Brandon Pettigrew, etc. etc. etc. You just caught me off guard all messed up on cold medicine.
     
  6. Darth Vader

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    I am not comparing Revis to Lott, just the career paths. Lott was an All-Pro CB -- he was drafted as a CB -- that transitioned into FS.

    I am comparing Revis' role in Rex's Defense to Ed Reed's.


    And BTW u couldnt be more wrong:

    Ronnie Lott - 6'0" 203
    Revis - 6'0" 205
    Glenn - 5'9" 183
     
  7. guinness77

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    there is no way revis is 6 foot, 200 plus. No way. I wasn't saying he had the same size as Glenn, just very similar footwork and cover skills. Glenn's '98 season was very close to Revis' '09. Probably the best season a Jets CB had previous to Revis last year.
    I'm old enough to have seen most of Ronnie Lott's career. They were 2 completely different players.
     
  8. MBGreen

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    Rex's reaction to the OP

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  9. Miamipuck

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    Before I read one word of op is he actually trying to justify moving Revis to safety?
     
  10. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Fuck that. Revis is one of the few DBs who can play man with anyone and you want to move him to a position that doesn't take advantage of this? You want him to play zone most of the time? He hasn't looked nearly as good in zone as in man. Bad idea imo.
     
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    Plus it looks like Rex only likes to pull the position switcharoo on depth players... Wayne Hunter, James Ihedigbo, Dwight Lowery, Vernon Gholston. Although Rashied Davis and I both noticed Sanchez is now taking snaps with the punting unit.
     
  12. MBGreen

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    Some of the people I'd rather see play Safety before moving Revis into that position....in random order:

    -Hank Poteat
    -Reggie Tongue
    -firemanedjr
    -firemanedjr's sister
    -Gary Coleman
    -Betty White
     
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    Miamipuck New Member

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    Stephen Hawking
    Keanu Reeves
    Christopher Reeves

    should round out your list.
     
  14. Heavy Metal Thunder

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    I don't think Gary Coleman is available to play safety. Last I heard he was battling Charlie Batch for the 3rd QB spot behind Big Ben and Dennis Dixon.
     
  15. Darth Vader

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    ok thanks folks. have a good one.
     
  16. MBGreen

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    I guess we're not going to see the "Re-envisioning John Conner to TE thread" anytime soon.
     
  17. guinness77

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    We have no consistent pass rush. We also are having problems adjusting to life without Jimmy Leonhard. Those are our 2 biggest problems right now. This is all that needs to be said. Why change the one thing that's not a problem at all? I know this gets beat to a pulp ad nauseum, but interceptions mean nothing for him. At least to me. They are gravy.
     
  18. MBGreen

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    Revis is the one constant from our secondary...that you can count on every week. Why the hell would anybody want to fuck with that?! Especially, when it doesn't solve the root of the problem....our ineffective pass rush and injuries to our starting NT and SS.
     
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    All I'm going to add to this is that I want the Chiefs in the WC round for one plain and simple reason. Revis vs. Bowe. He neutralizes Bowe (which any Jets fan should believe he will) and we win the game. Plain and simple. You're talking 10 v. 10 minus a pro-bowl receiver, and you're talking about a victory for us. You still have Jamaal Charles to worry about, but the rookie TE doesn't scare me and (certainly) none of their other WRs.
    That's exactly why you don't move a CB of the caliber of Revis.
     
  20. Green Hurricane

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    I couldn't even imagine a more terrible idea. Honestly, can't do it. Really, really bad.


    BTW, I love how the OP is under the impression that if Revis moves to safety he's instantly going to be a elite, all time great level player at that position.
     

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