Re-doing the draft

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  1. JetsLookingforDWare

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    It can't help that he had 5 different opinions on two guys in his first post in this thread...

    Or can it?
     
  2. ToESonNoES58

    ToESonNoES58 New Member

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    Granted he may not be a position of need, but we didn't give up two draft picks if you in fact did watch the draft. Initially we gave up our 2nd round and 4th round (113).
    However, GB gave us back 113 and a 5th rounder for our top 4th round pick. SO, we basically gave up a 2nd and a 4th for a 1st and 5th. So where do you see giving up two draft picks when everything is said and done?
     
  3. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    So everyone who doesn?t agree with you, that this Draft sucked, is a homer? Nice attitude! I got a feeling, you didn?t really do your homework about the players we drafted. If I?m wrong, and you did look closely at those guys, and still hate this draft, thats fine, but don?t just bash the Draft because some "Experts" do.

    And for QB, if Clemens sucks, we?ll draft a QB next year, why should we have drafted one, when we still don?t know, how Clemens will work out. And Clemens didn?t seem to have much confidence last year, throwing another high Draftpick in might not be good for his development, because it might get in his head.
     
  4. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    thats your opinion, and your entitled to it.
    have a beautiful day:grin:
     
  5. JetsLookingforDWare

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    And you've written off Ainge as someone without starting potential due to....?

    Oh yea I forgot...only first and second round picks become starters.

    Still pretty dense considering QB wasn't anywhere near as big a need as a supporting cast for the QB is/was. Capatalizing their names doesn't make it less dense either.

    And in America I also have the right to laugh and tell you that what you're saying is dumb.

    I have no idea why you felt the need to remind us where you are and what your rights are. I didn't see anyone attacking your constitutional right to say ignorant shit.
     
  6. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    your right, you have every right to tell me what i'm saying is dumb.
    thats what makes this such a beautiful country. the fact that people can have the freedom to say what they want.
    and you my friend, have a beautiful day, also:) ,asshole
     
  7. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    how the fuck do you know weather i looked closely at the guys we drafted, or not? as for your accusations that i listen to the "experts", again, you don't know anything about how i form my opinions.

    bill walsh always said it's smart to draft a QB, every year, for developmental purposes. worst that could happen is having someone worthy of trade bait. i guess he's a moron, too.

    why don't you revisit the draft, and see what we got, then you tell me you think we did a good job.
     
  8. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Who said Keller has to be a good blocker?
    The guy could be an excellent player even if he is only an adequate blocker.
     
  9. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Prior to the draft, I was of the opinion that tight end was indeed a need position. To each their own, I guess.
     
  10. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    without being a good blocker, he can't be an every down TE.
    look at all the great TE'S, you tell me the one's that don't block.
     
  11. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Antonio Gates, Kellen Winslow, and Dallas Clark are not good blockers, in my opinion.

    Keller can also be coached up to become a better blocker than he is at this current time.
     
  12. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    i'm not saying keller will be a bad player, i'm saying i would have rather have had both picks, we used up on him, and drafted players at more "need " positions.
    LB, WR, S, CB(need more then lowery),DE,...
     
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  13. BleedGreen4ever

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    Our offense is based on confusion by formation and motions and Keller fits the bill perfect maybe he is listed as a TE but he is much more than that. He can split the seam as a vertical threat, and even line up as a wide reciever. He fits what our offense wants to do perfectly, because just like our entire team is trying to be he is versitile. Watch film on the guy he is a beast. and if he can't block so what we have Chris Baker and Bubba Franks to do that not to mention our upgraded line. Overall a little bit of a shocker at first but after i did some research on the guy I like the pick more and more everyday.
     
  14. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    i think you're being a little short-sighted and annoyed that we didn't get the guys you wanted. Also, trading up for a guy that you don't know how he will be utilized in the offense scares you, purely on the basis of trading up - and the TE tag scares you as well.

    Look into the picks, I think you'll see why the posters who took your position a few days after the draft changed their minds when they did their HW.

    The QB is worrying, but there isn't much we can do about that. Getting another early means another 2-3 years of development and the pressure to start him over the unknown, when they are as unknown as the incumbent unknown, which is already being done on Clemens. He is not even close to being judged yet. Thats why they took a QB late with a good college track record who may be able to turn into something 4 years from now in Ainge. QB's aren't great in 8 games. It takes everyone 20-30 games starting to get a gist of who they are.

    Practice some patience.
     
  15. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    ok so we got Clemens and Ainge in the last 3 drafts for developmental purposes and thats not good enough? Your statements are proven wrong by drafting history since 06. Bill Walsh also had Montana, so he didn't need another QB.

    I'll go revisit the draft, and Free Agency as well and realize that we did a fine job. The front 7 is set, the secondary will get better off of the pressure of the front 7 alone and the offense can look like it did in 06 and better due to the better line.... stop being a typical self-destructive Jet fan.
     
  16. inSANITy

    inSANITy Banned

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    Where should i start?

    1) Your football knowledge is garbage
    2) We didn't draft keller to block thats why we have baker and newly aquired bubba franks. Their were no good wrs in this class that anyone thought was a good enough for the first round so we decided to go with a player that gives matchup problems to people in dustin keller. Too fast for a lb too strong for a cb.
    3) Why didnt we pick up henne or brohm? for one henne sucks I wouldnt mind taking Brohm but talking about wasting picks what was the point of drafting clemens then. We drafted ainge as a work in progress who can possibly pan out if clemens doesnt work and if he cant be a starter he could def be a good back up.

    So what exactly are you trying to argue here?
     
  17. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    This FO drafted 3 QBs in 3 Drafts.
     
  18. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    i love you all!
    i really appreciate being on this site. it educates me, and makes me realize that i truely know nothing about football.
    i can only hope, that when you all get hired as general managers, and coaches, around the league, you won't hold your contempt for me, against me, and score me great seats to the games.
    please forgive my short sightedness, regarding the draft.
    may GOD have mercy on my soul.
     
  19. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Quarterbacks drafted by San Francisco during Bill Walsh's tenure as head coach-

    1979- Joe Montana, 3rd round
    1980- Dan Hartwig, 9th round
    1981- Joe Adams, 12th round
    1982- Bryan Clark, 9th round
    1983- none
    1984- none
    1985- Scott Barry, 6th round
    1986- none
    1987- John Paye, 10th round
    1988- none
     
  20. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    look up the quote, see if he said it.
    your just on a mission to prove me wrong.
    knock yourself out.
    it's a nice day, go enjoy it:)
     
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