Just the opposite if you're Boston. You know your free passes every year of hitting Jeter and Arod are over. As long as Torre was there you knew the Yankees would never retaliate and now you know that your stars will have a target on their backs if you continue to throw at them.
As Cakes just pointed out, the Red Sox and Rays have a RICH history of fighting so, when I saw the thread title, I was all prepared to post about how the Rays are, and have been, a dirty team. And then I saw the photo of Shelley, which can't be interpreted any other way than as a cheap shot. Pitch inside. Throw at a guy's hip. Throw behind and over a hitter. All fair relatiatory stuff in baseball. All different from running through a catcher blocking home plate, which isn't cheap at all. Spike a guy covering second, though, and that's beyond the line. If MLB were the NFL, that would be a hefty fine.
It still could be a big fine. I don't know how they handle spring training games as these thing don't happen very often. I think the article said the last one was years ago. In Duncan's defense and of course nobody knows what his mindset was he said he was trying to kick the ball out of the glove. We see a single frame of it but don't know where the glove was a split second before that. If he was then that is just as legitimate as running through a catcher. It's how people are coached. If what happened on the weekend didn't happen and Duncan hadn't said anything there would be no story here at all as it appears he didn't spike the guy at all or at least if he did there was no cut or other injury. This is all about what happened in the previous game.
Wow Don, seriously, I don't know how you can type this stuff. What Duncan did was wrong. Dead wrong. We're not talking about ARod sliding in hard, or slapping someone's glove. We're talking about risking a guy's livelihood. Duncan came in spikes-high. He almost kicked the dude in the abdomen his left foot was so high. Had he not been paying attention, his body could have been in position to get him seriously injured. Like Jack said, throwing hard inside is one thing. Intentionally coming in spikes-high is seriously bush league bullshit. I'm a Yankee fan, and I think Duncan deserves a 5-gamer for that. Spring training, or no spring training.
You take more exception to it then even Iwamura who wasn't at all upset with the play when asked after the game. I guess just you, Madden and Gomes. It happens all the time during the regular season when people are trying to break up double plays and nobody get riled. If he was out by as much as they say then wth was Iwamura still doing on the bag?
Don, do me a favor. Go find a clip of the play. I watched it on the news this morning. Duncan was clearly trying to hurt him. Clearly. On top of the fact that early in the game the Yankee pitcher was ejected for throwing inside. It should have ended there. Duncan is a headcase. I'm not sure his bat is worth it.
More dumb from Don. It's illegal to kick the ball out of someone's glove. Had he done that, he still would have been out. So that's about as plausible as when Clemens claimed he thought the bat was the ball. Even if he did, you don't throw the ball at the runner for an out.
*sigh* Anyway, I'm saying the guy is a headcase. Which he seems to be. And it's not solely for one single play. This isn't the first time that he's not only stated he would retaliate later, but actually followed through with it. And it's also not the first time he's done it to a team in our division. When you play a team more than a dozen times in a year, it's generally not a great idea to give them reasons to come headhunting for your squad. :rofl: Yeah. I'm sure that would have at least one Yankee fan cheering.
hes definatley not smart and *possibly* a headcase but he gives us power off the bench and some much needed intensity.
I just said his bat "might" not be worth it. I didn't hand the kid his walking papers. He does need a little sitdown with Girardi though.
