Hard to put much if any creadance on ratings from anyone, either self proclaimed expert or NFL guru soon after the draft, be it one day, one week or one year. Waste of time. Is like rating a beauty contest blind folded. But everyone has the right to express his or her opinion on how the GM performed his function, even if you have no real data, but a gut feel or you like the way the guy looks. For me, when the assessment starts out with phrases " Lee was a reach at 20" it's time to stop reading. You could have had him in the third, or the fourth, we did nothing to move up, or down, yada, yada yada its time to switch to the next thread. Reach according to whom? You know for a fact he would or would not be there? How do you know what we tried to do? Get real people. Or here is another classic " This player was a risk at seven based on his injury history" but " the Jags got a steel in the second with Myles Jack" or the biggest dichotomy of all " Great move to mortgage the farm with multiple picks on the first two QBs, but Hack was a reach in the second with all of his short comings" The reality is we have no clue how will eventually turn out.....neither Goff nor Wentz are Andrew Luck, not even close. It's a gamble. Time will tell how it turns out. I can't help but remember what happened to RGIII and Leach, and Brady or many others and for sure accept the fact that anything is possible. It's a matter of probability, no more no less. For now all we know that this draft addresses some pressing needs. Hopefully we will be fortunate enough to give this draft an A+++ 2-3 years from now. In Mac I trust
That write up tells you why the Jets did not select him, he is a better fit for a team that uses a Zone Blocking Scheme. The jets abandoned that when they hired Gailey.
hindsight, being that we were the only team that was gonna take hack before the 5th round I would have traded down 2nd rounder and picked a better corner(but obviously bowles knows his defense so I trust the pick) , still taken Jenkins in the 3rd and maybe , maybe a better o-lineman with the other 3rd, hack in the 4th, I'm happy with the draft but its the order they did it lol I guess that's what most of us knock on it , but we got charone peake and tom Hackett, fired up lol
I kept hearing 2 days ago and yesterday that we were the only team that spent any time with him during the whole process, granted it said we spent the most time , but it came out like we were the only ones that actually spent time, I know other teams had to look and do the whole due diligence but we dove head first and it said nobody came close to the amount of time we spent with him
If the Jets thought this guy could be a franchise QB they'd be insane to pass on him in the second round and assume no one else wanted him.
either way , I'm very happy with the players we got , our LB core is solid for a while , hope Peake can step up quickly, if decker or marshall go down with an injury we are screwed a little, after those 2-- the other guys don't require the same coverage as them, its nice that we have 3 running backs that can catch the ball out of the backfield, and maybe amaro will be a pleasant surprise
Well I don't thinks its 2012 style (complete whiff) but I also don't think its a slam dunk. Like many drafts its dependent on rounds 2-4. That's where the rubber meets the road.
Draft Grade should be about filling needs and potential. For that, Jets get an A+ from me. The one position they did not address was TE, but I guess Chan just hates all TE's.
A+ is pretty generous. Linebackers were addressed in good ways. Burris will give us solid depth at CB. Shell should be decent on the o-line but we still need more o-line help. Peake is a great choice in the 7th. It's a 7th pick which no one expects anything of but he actually has a chance to be a major contributor. I just don't like the Hackenberg pick. Clearly they saw something no one else sees. Sure it didn't help being on a shitty team, but still. I think after they saw everyone's (over)reactions to not taking Lynch (Who had no business going at 20), they freaked out and took the next option at QB.
First, thanks for starting this thread, I always enjoy doing this after the draft. The D for Edwards was because I didn't see him on any list of the top punters in the draft, and we probably could have signed him after (though I agree with those who say that there's nothing wrong in general with using a 7th rounder on a specialist). In fact, I would even be OK with using a 5th or 6th rounder on a kicker or punter if the prospect is good enough. But since I had to assign him a grade, I chose D because I didn't think the player warranted a draft pick. Still, I don't feel strongly either way, since it's only a 7th round flyer we're talking about. As for Peake, I just didn't see him on any lists either, so that's why I considered him a reach, but again, only the 7th so no big deal. But from what I've read about him on here he sounds promising... One question I had --- why are people in this thread listing Darron Lee as an ILB instead of OLB?
The caveat of course is that few QB's picked in the range he was picked in are able to take on a franchise QB role. However your point is absolutely right. We have no way of knowing if somebody else was looking at him and thinking he might be worth a pick as a developmental QB. The Patriots come to mind immediately in that regard given their tendency to take QB's in the 2nd and 3rd round knowing that Brady is the guy unless there is an injury and trading the guy picked is always an option down the road. The Pats have taken a 2nd or 3rd round QB 3 times since 2008 and at least one of them (Ryan Mallett) was far from a polished product at the time they took him.
Oh OK, I didn't hear that. One of the reasons I liked the pick was because I thought he would be a pass rusher/edge rusher for us. Now I don't like the pick quite as much, but I guess Bowles knows what he's doing...and maybe he'll rush the passer from the inside?
why do u guys keep saying they need o-line help, they really don't, center is mangold, his backup is Wesley Johnson, does a nice job when nick isn't in, carpenter is at left guard, clady at left tackle, breno should be gone, and winters is ok, he doesn't suck, hes serviceable, they have Jarvis Harrison as a backup guard from last years draft, ijilana and qvale as backup tackles, breno sucks I know that, that's why we got shell in the 5th, dude is mammoth, don't u guys think the coaching staff is high on these guys, after all they do have to pass block and run block against our defense in practice, and u know how stout we are up front
