Al Davis/Art Shell hire Walsh as OC and you say he can't devise his own gameplan. That sounds pretty useless to me.
Let me ask you , you think Jimmy raye(last years OC) was calling Raiders play by himself. Bill callahan wasn't getting assistance from marc trestman . Gary Kubiak was calling plays for Denver by himself. Bill Muir was calling the Plays for Tampabay by himself or J gruden. YEs they had strong X and O coach ,but point is it dosen't matter had it structured the gameplanning(whether it goes through head coach or not)- but that they get best possible result out of offense. Only time will tell by the results on field. Never said Walsh couldn't devise his own gameplan. Only thing I remember was he did have some trouble making in game adjustments. Thats where another pair of eyes can only help him. (like R Neusheisel) can really pay dividends. OC eventually going to have final say.(just a little birdie given some of his insight)
Well, we can start with Al Davis and his Hyman Roth fashion statements. Holy Cr*p, where's the eyewash.
Here's the difference - right or wrong, the Jets have chosen a business plan, and the fanbase has been infused with a sense hope and direction. On the other hand, transvestites, pirates, road warriors and smog monsters everywhere are groaning about the embarassing series of events over the last month. Is winning preordained for either team? Of course not. But when Jeaux - our delusional pal - crows about coaches trampling each other to get interviewed by that old loon in the corner cave, and then changes his story when things don't exactly. . . umm. . . work out as planned, it would be impolite not to needle.
' Okay tell me all these coaches that Raiders wanted that turned them down for JOB. AL Saunders wanted the job bad(came in to Raiders interview with 10 binders of what he would do with Raiders personal. AL was only considering him for OC job. (too much like N turner) Washington paying him a ton more money than Raiders would to OC, M Martz- Al Davis talked about him after Norv was fired(press conference) . Said he would consider him only for OC and Not head coaching position(want me to producethat) M Martz asked AL Davis for an interview and AL gave him one. After He knew AL only considered him for OC positon and not a headcoach, he said he was removing his name from consideration as headcoach of Raiders.(LMAO How can you remove your name when you were never offered the job and knew you had no chance for that job. Also Martz agent is Lamonte(same as Mortenson and Gruden) Can you see the picture. Ken Wisenhunt was this guy on anyone radar before Raiders wanted to interview him. AL was impressed with his x and o's but didn't have the passion al Was looking for. Whisenhunt admitted that Raiders never offered him job. Also James Lofton was interviewed more for OC too, than headcoach, but he filled the NFL policy that one nFL coach interviewed must be a minority. For Millonth time only guy to turn down the Raiders was B Petrino and we know that had more to do with his Kid wanting to finish his senior season. Again Lets see you puill an article that refutes anything I said. But it was a nice try. Want to go over the staff assembled by the Raiders and its impressive group. Only one you can question is hiring oF Tom walsh. That more because headcoach feels the most comfortable with him. Want to debate me on Raiders coaches versus Jet coaches. Lets go coach by coach.
:lol: I'd swear right now that if you told me you were Pee-spot Al Davis in the flesh, I'd believe you. You just repeated verbatim that nutsy old coot's press conference from two weeks ago. Query - why would Crazy spend 20 minutes of a press conference where he was supposed to be introducing a new coach, explaining away the half dozen coaches that he didn't hire? It was bizarre. That press conference had three phases to it: Phase I - Introduce Art Shell and let him speak for 3 minutes Phase II - Talk about getting back to Rrrrrraider Foo'bawl (or whatever) Phase III - Convince the press in the room that Art was the only coach good enough to choose by explaining how you "never offered" the job to anyone else. It's not a desirable job, and there are two very simple reasons: First, the team is in cap hell and the talent is weak; and second, Nutsy Fagan Davis is a heavy-handed loon, who won't all coaches to coach without meddling. But you've certainly drunk the Kool-aid, Jeaux. Go with what you've got.
This is simply amazing. It's an even better spectacle than Jimmy Swaggert and his "I have sinned against you!" waterworks fest. :lol:
I know the spirit you post in, it's cool. But you do realize that for every fan chuckling at the Raiders there is another fan chuckling at your "business plan". A GM with very little personnel experience hiring a 34 year old coach with 1 year's experience as a coordinator doesn't sound like much of a business plan.
Haven't you ever read this site? Mangini can do no wrong. And while Tannenbaum doesn't get the same treatment, he is not Terry Bradway which is good enough for most of us. By the way: It's really uncanny. I always said that even before profootballtalk.com!
Lets talk reason why Jets have hired so many youngsters. Could it be that Mangini has no NFl ties around the league, and thats all they could get. (inexperienced assistants ) Tony Wise your oline coach ,couldn't get a job as oline coach. Last year he begged his buddy Norv Turner for the Raiders Oline coach job. Norv was so impressed with his work with Miami, that he gave J Colletto the job. Can you tell me this I don't nojack , where was Tony Wise working as Oline coach last year. LMAO Any you have the Balls to pick on Raiders hires. Rob Ryan- mangini wanted to be his DC, well hes still Raiders DC. (WOW I thought Jets had better defense talent) B Sutton- Yea tell me hes Mangini first choice. Want me to go on or do you get the point.
People who live In glass houses shouldn't throw stone- especially when there more quiestion marks on their staff(hires) than the team they are trying to make fun of.
Changing subject??????? Your talking about Raiders headcoach and assistant coaches hires. I just bringing up your hires this offseason. Just debating which team hires were worse. (Remember Jets are a BIG city team and have more money to overspend for assistant coaches. (see redskins) Yet it seems your Owner went for the seven eleven special(inexperience- cheap coaches)
Are you kidding? I'm all ABOUT throwing stones. And, I was never very keen on that saying. EDIT: After all this time, Jeaux, don't you get that??!!!
Check out soup Kitchen winning percentage to the 7/eleven special. I guess Rob Ryan went with the soup(even though Jets offered him twice as much money he was going to make with Raiders. LMAO
