R%aiders waive sixth round draft choice

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  1. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Exactly! We need a pass rusher who couldn't even make it to training camp on a team that couldn't win six games last year. Give RaiderTroll a GM job!

    Seriously, go home:

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  2. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    What does that have to do with anything.( for example Joey porter played on a 1-15 dolphins team) That is an assine statement coming from someone who is a football fan.


    Couple Facts. Raiders were bad stopping the run that teams would rather run the football than challenge them with the pass. You saw for yourself in that Raider /Jet game (one game only)everytime Favre went back to pass Raiders Dline hit him everytime he threw the football. Raiders have alot more pass rushers than the Jets can dream of. When Calvin Pace and B thomas are expected to be your top pass rushers. You have no pass rush.
     
  3. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Couple facts: Raiders 16-0 2009: Jamarcus Russell 100% completion pct, 10000 YDs, 99 TDs 0 INTs. Chaz Schillens: 200 Rec, 5000 YDs 50 TDs

    We're fucked. I'm cancelling my Sunday Ticket Package tomorrow. What's the point?
     
  4. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Couple of facts:

    Jamarcus Russell: 100% completion percentage of BigMac to Mouth receptions, 12 games with multiple milkshakes consumed during warm-up performances, record-setting 400 double cheese burgers eaten in a single game!

    Radier Joe: knows as much about football analysis and roster planning as he does sentence structure, syntax, and vocabulary.

    As for the purpose of my original post, are you really comparing a rookie 6th round pick who was cut before he could carry a vet's pads out to the field in a preseason game with a multiple Pro Bowler? Wow. You could not have sounded dumber in that post if you were comparing Dan Marino to Rex Grossman. However, I will attempt to retort in kind: bacon tastes better than fried boot. There, your move.
     
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    Scikotic Banned

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    The Raiders have become the team that everyone in the NFL just flicks boogers at while laughing hysterically. Sad, yet true. Sorry Jeaux.
     
  6. Mambo9

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    Why do you care so much about height and weight?
    NFL OLB are all around 6'2 to 6'5 and all weigh between 250 and 270...
     
  7. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Wrong. Like CkNy6 statement was wrong. What does a team record have to do with quality of pass rushers, a team has. Nothing. This statement is equally wrong. All LBs aren't between 6'2 and 6'5 and weigh 250 to 270 pounds. Maybe Ckny6 can figure out why this statement is wrong.(maybe )
     
  8. Learn To Swim

    Learn To Swim 2008 Nightowltom "Best Non-Jets Poster" Award Winn

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    Are you really trying to argue that mean size of players is a better judgment of their quality than their on-field results?
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Somehow I missed jeaux getting eaten by the shark years ago.
     
  10. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    No Learn to Read(swim).
    The jet poster was falsely under the impression that all OLB's are between 6'2 and 6'5 and between 250 and 270. That would be wrong even for 3-4 defense. Who alot of times De's who would be playing De in 4-3 , play Olb in 3-4 defense.

    OLb James harrison Nfl defensive player of the year goes 6'0 242 . Raiders don't have one lb that weighs 250 pounds.
     
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  11. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Want to know why you are an idiot? The reason that the team's record counts is because the record is indicative of the roster's talent. The fact that he was cut before TC means that he wasn't good enough to take a job away from a player on a team that only went 5-11. In case the use of complete sentences was too confusing for you here it is in bullet-point format:

    -Raiders sucked in 2008
    -Raiders drafted players in 2009 to improve roster
    -Guy drafted is not talented enough to make the roster, Raiders cut guy.
    -Guy is worse than the players who helped the team go 5-11
     
  12. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    ...too mean
     
  13. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Really? Even without the future bartender of America wondering what to do with his general education degree comment?
     
  14. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    So much hatred!!
     
  15. inSANITy

    inSANITy Banned

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    Jon Alston is horrible. Utterly Horrible. IF this guy is ur starting olb u should be talking shit about the jets lb core.
     
  16. Raiderjoe

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    NO you are clueless. Again if you been following football you know what happened last year, has no bearing on the following season. See Miami dolphins and Falcons .( Teams rise and fall every year.(like Jets seem to do on strength of schedule)

    Here is an example that illustrates what Im talking about and why you are a fool. Once upon a time, Raiders were loaded at the time at dT ,( R Maryland, D russell, developing Grady jackson etc), they loved Laroi Glover, but they were just too deep at DT. They were forced to cut him, and the saints picked him up and he had a great career.
    Raiders record wasn't the important factor,(it wasn't good at the time) but the fact they had too much talent at a particular position.(saints pounce on that situation - happens all the time)

    Again Raiders signing Greg ellis after the draft (when he came free), were seriously thinking they were going to move Derrick Burgess before the season, plus other young players drafted Slade Norris and Matt Shaughnessy being ahead of sulak. Not to mention Raiders were at 88 players and have to cut 8 players by the time camp opens(80 man limit) Made sulak expendable. Just because Raiders are deep with pass rushers now and Sslb, dosen't mean Jets shouldn't take a look at a player who might be able to help them.

    When B thomas and C Pace are your Olbs you are in serious trouble(Have either had double figure sack numbers in any season) Again you need all the help you can get and should be looking at ever pass rusher available. Especially with pace sitting down the first four games.


    BTW Raiders also Cut highly regarded Lb Frantz Joseph(who will be playing in the NFL) just didn't have the speed that required to play in John marshalls defense.
     
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  17. inSANITy

    inSANITy Banned

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    Btw I think we should introduce the world to Joe. He could really help us in the depression we are going through, if someone ever needs a laugh.

    Better yet he should be on the presidential cabinet. If he can make the Raiders sound good Im sure he can make the economy sound like we are striving
     
  18. Raiderjoe

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    Yea Okay?????? You wish you had one lb that had ability to match up in man to man coverage. Thomas Howard and Alston have that ability . Not one Jet lb can. Bart scott wish his man skills were as good as either of those players. How alston who now 237 , holds up against the run will say alot , if he wins the Ssslb position. His coverage ability has been very impressive. Again you have to look at Seattle LBs and how Raiders new defensive coordinator use them players. UDFa David Nixon(BYU)- another one of these very quick guy who can cover has a good chance to win a job. Speed and ability to cover is favored by new DC.
     
  19. Jake

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    What exactly do you base Bart Scotts inability to play man coverage on? His height and weight? If you talk to any Ravens fans who watched their team play on a regular detailed basis they will tell you Scott was the most multi-dimensional linebacker in that core. They had Scott playing more in coverage than any other LB and he did a damn good job. He can cover the TE down the seam and roam with the RB out of the backfield. If he couldn't why the fuck would the NYJ have replaced Barton with a guy who would be no different than Barton?

    What have you seen Jon Alston do in the NFL? Anything? Or is it his height, weight and 40 time that have your Raider myopia at it's all time high?

    Now I don't even know if retorts like this are even necessary, considering the recent reports of you being a total farce, which seems more and more legitimate because no one can be as retarded as you.
     
  20. Raiderjoe

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    We are going to see what bart Scott and 185 pound safety justin Leonhard are without those studs they were playing with on the Ravens. Yes bart scott could look good in coverage but a large reason was the pressure the Ravens were getting on the QB(less time and area a player has to cover- see ravens who led everyone with interceptions(Mistakes caused by pressure) Lets see if thats the case with jets when Scott has to cover alot longer.(jets p0ass rush sucks) See Giant and chargers average secondarys that look alot more impressive because of pressure their front seven put on Qb.


    Facts W Thomas and J alston your talking about two of the fastest Lbs(not straight line fast) Both look like Cbs in the way they cover. IN Fact Howard so good that he has lined up at Cb occassionally. K morrison good in coverage, but hes more positioning, than the man to man coverage skills those two possess. Bart scott dosen't have that athlethic ability.(reason why he went undrafted. Let see how much an upgrade scott is in coverage.
     

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