That's the expectation you are supposed to have and it's probably to keep you from getting angry, I'm not expecting to make the playoffs right now but I am expecting to see something different from this team because the entire approach is totally different from every single year Woody has owned this team. It's a youth movement in almost the entire upstairs area except Gailey and I think it's going to invigorate the team, but maybe it will just take time or blow up, who knows. I will gamble that it's a sooner rather than later thing although don't ask me to actually gamble LOL
I think as long as the QB position is unsettled, you have to split reps to let the dust settle just a bit. Once the season starts, it's over. A team with a decent QB (Tannyhill comes to mind) that just needs a better o-line and a few more weapons? Skip the training camp competition bullshit and get the kid as many reps as possible. But teams like the Jets with Geno and Simms or Buffalo with ManWell should really get the best arms they can into camp and let the wool fly for a month. No QB should avoid training camp competition until they've stepped it up a notch or two and shown at least some consistency and promise during the regular season.
I'd rather go with the great albino hope (Simms) than Geno honestly. Ever since I saw Jigga promoting Geno I was wondering wth we were doing, dude isn't even established as a manager
It's not about being angry (yet) it's about having too many unknown factors in the equation. We won't really know what we are looking at for the next couple years until draft day. Once we can see the direction we are going in we can better judge the execution. I'm excited about the ground work being laid out so far. Buuuuuuut..... “The best-laid schemes o’ mice an’ men gang aft agley”
Well all I can do is give my definition of what a competition is. Everything else depends on factors. If the QB clearly looks better in camp you name him the starter (ala Vick/Foles 2013 competition) before preseason. If it's close you ride it into the preseason and hope someone separate themselves. As for the QB's I say Geno and a vet (Fitzpatrick, Moore, Hoyer, McCoy etc) I don't think the rookie should be in the equation for the competition. It should be between Geno and the vet.
If it's between Geno and a vet, I think the team would be better served deciding early in camp who they're riding with, dancing between 2 options until a week before the season starts will only get us to where we have been for the past couple years, receivers not having timing, offensive line not knowing their assignments, etc. You can't go 3 games into the preseason and expect to think the O has any chance of being effective.
The biggest factor in a QB competition is bringing in guys who want to compete and actually believe they can win the job. IDK what the reason was for Vick's stubborness toward the competition last training camp but it was pretty clear to me that he was satisfied taking his 5 million to sit on the bench for a year. And thats a problem. I dont know who's going to be brought in. But Id hope we get both a vet and a young guy whether through trade or the draft, but all 3 QB's need to have the same mindset and passion.
Vick was told early that he was the backup, he made that clear shortly after he signed. It's the former FO's fault, although you know the guy was looking at it like a 5 million dollar clinic or something. Rex pretending there was a QB comp was the biggest sham of the whole year, I can't believe anyone actually bought that stuff.
Yeah man, two drives apiece in PS game one. That shouldn't be the deciding factor but it should be a final mark before the decision is made.
All around it was a bad situation. Even if Vick was told he was the backup right from the start (literally zero benefit from telling him that) he could've atleast pretended he was competing to be the starter. Just goes to show you that professionalism isnt measured in years played in the league. As inept as Rex and Idzik were in putting together a true competition I think the bottom line from it comes from the QB's. Even if they arent getting the snaps in at practice, there are things a player can do to show a coaching staff that he's motivated for an opportunity.
That's the thing, I actually expected him to know he was the backup but tow the company line and pretend to but from even the early stages he basically shot the whole idea of QB comp down. Rex would talk about a competition and Vick would say "there is no competition". That was one of the first things he ever said as a Jet. There was never a competition. He didn't care, and they gave him no reason to. But they still took starter snaps away from Geno to continue the charade. Rex sucks. I can't wait for the Jets to sweep his sorry ass this year.
In many situations yes, but not necessarily now with the Jets. Bowles is on record as saying that anyone who turns over the ball can take a seat on the bench. If the QB competition is between Geno and the vet FA they sign and Geno turns the ball over in practice like he has in the past, the competition will be over early, and they won't need to see them in preseason action.
Its a reboot year, time to find out who can play and who cant. I don't care if it takes all season, the competition ends when we find a QB. We have money, bring in 2 vets and a draft pick, bring in 3 vets, release the worst ones and bring in more. You can't give a dub 2-3 years, give them a chance then move on if it doesn't work. Top priority is finding someone, no matter the cost.
A true QB competition is when 2 or 3 guys battle it out and the best one starts. The Jets, in years past, have been big fans of the sham QB competition where they say they're having a competition but appear to really not be.
