Putting your eggs in the basket of Sheldon Richardson is monumentally stupid.

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  1. jetlife21

    jetlife21 Well-Known Member

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    Fuck You. Pay Sheldon. Keep Mo too. Nothing wrong with having Sheldon, Mo and Williams the cap is rising each year.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Hey, don't get me wrong, I like Sheldon's personality and I love the way he plays. But his life choices have made him an easy out.
     
  3. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    No one is "happy" with trading Mo, we've just accepted reality, that he's not going to sign here long term, and it's better to get the most we can in return for him and get the cap space for this season when we need it. No one's counting or gambling on Sheldon at this point, either. If he keeps his nose clean (literally) and stays out of trouble, then we'll see what kind of money demands he has and if Mac thinks he's worth it. If he doesn't stay out of trouble, then the Jets will get what they can for him, move on, and they'll replace him via the draft.

    You know as well as I that when a new GM comes to a team, he doesn't owe anything to a single player who is there and doesn't necessarily have any loyalty to any of them. If he thinks the team can be improved by trading or releasing a player, he'll do it. If there's a player who is a locker room cancer or malcontent or who has a bad character, that player will often get sent packing. It has nothing to do with "shrewd business practice." It has everything to do with straightening out the team salary structure and not overpaying for players. Sure the Jets don't have a big money QB now, but what happens when they finally do, but can't re-sign him because they have a team full of players at less important positions who are used to getting top dollar from the Jets? I like Mo as a player and I'm still glad the Jets drafted him, but I don't think he's worth $15 million a season or worse, $40 million guaranteed money. That's what is insane and idiotic.

    I applaud Mac for bringing fiscal responsibility and sanity to the Jets and for not letting the players and their agents push him around. Eff Revis, Mo, Sheldon and any other player that thinks he is going to be one of the top two paid players in the NFL at his position. If they eventually get a HOF-type player, fine. They can give him the huge contract, but until they do, the rest of the lugheads can play for a fair deal or go elsewhere. I care about what's best for the team.
     
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    I think Leonard Williams is the guy the Jets are comparing Mo too in terms of affordability/ability. They're the two guys who could play on the left side in a 4-3 and also as a 3-4 DE. Richardson is a 3T playing 3-4 DE because the Jets run a 3-4 at the moment. He'd move inside to 3T with Williams and Mo both suited for the strongside end position and probably not for the pass rusher on the weakside.

    I don't have expectations at this point that either Mo or Richardson will be on the Jets in 2 years but it's clear Williams will be here through 2020.
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The caps' not rising fast enough to pay an interior DL who is not a superstar 10% of your cap. It just doesn't work when you run the numbers and project the other high value positions.
     
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  6. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    nope.

    i think its clear, and has been clear for 2 years now, that the jets wanted wilkerson on this team. they made him big offers. they franchised him. they have in past seasons and are sitll trying to work out a long term deal.

    this isnt, "take a big discount or walk, we've got sheldon".

    the jets are willing to pay at or near market value. but at some point, you just cant be reckless with spending. other then maybe at QB. i think all jets fans would love to keep him. i think the jets would love to keep him. but at a certain point, you are just shooting yourself in the foot. like the dolphins did with suh.

    does it help us that if we lose mo we still have talent on the dline? sure. but i dont think it factors in. if sheldon wasnt here, i think the jets top offer on mo would still be the same.
     
  7. Walt White

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    I like Sheldon's personality also. Gotta love the way he plays. But what direction he takes is scary. He's a little bit of tweener tho too. Seems to me he's a 3T like Br4d said. What are we doing with the D? Where does he fit?
    I want to see him another year to see what he really is. I tend to think our fans overrate him a little. But if he takes it to another level this year that will speak for itself.

    Macs in a bit of bad spot with the hand he was dealt, and he has to address each guy's situation individually as it comes along as to how it effects the future of the team. So I don't think you can really interrelate the two of them.

    But I agree. The last guy I wanted to see go was Mo. The first guy I thought should be the Odd man out was Sheldon. Mac was handcuffed tho. It's a monster investment that may not be at the right time in Mac's view. We'll see.

    You can only hope that Williams ends up as tough as Mo. He'll be good tho.
     
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  8. Footballgod214

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    yeah I left that part out ;)
     
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    Good write up. And some of the house cleaning a new GM does is what he was brought in to do. A new GM generally isn't brought in if the teams doing great with no personnel or cap issues. It's the new GMs job to take the team in a new direction, since the old direction (ie, roster, cap, coaches, etc) just weren't getting it done. Again, good write up.
     
  10. Rockinz

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    I'm on this page I would much rather trade Sheldon over Mo any day!!

    HOWEVER, Sheldons stock is at an all time low... I'm sure some team would take a gamble on him but at what cost?

    At this point Mo would be the player teams are calling about not Sheldon...
     
  11. Section 336

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    Actually - I do not think the trade value of Mo is all that high as it stands right now either, as I do not think there are that many suitors and they know the Jets really need to move him because of the cap hit.

    He has been tagged, is going to cost a ton this year and then a FA afterward - a GM with patience can wait.

    When no reasonable deal presents itself, I really think the Jets are going to end up working it out and extending Mo.
     
  12. NCJetsfan

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    Thanks!
     
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    Honestly, we have a good chance of losing Sheldon for the entire year because what he did was monumentally stupid! But I'm giving Macc some leeway right now. Like he doesn't have enough on his plate?
     
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    I can't articulate how fascinating I find this.
     
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    Putting your eggs in Sheldons basket is like counting on Geno007 to win a spelling bee
     
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  16. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your basic point about Sheldon, but I would be totally against giving MO the JJ Watt money that he purportedly wants under any circumstances. As long as the hard salary cap is in place, giving that much money to ANY interior defensive linemean (including Watt himself) in today's NFL in sheer lunacy.
     
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    or becoming a Petty fan.
     
  18. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, even if he was , I'd be against it. Simply put, JJ Watt isn't worth JJ Watt money, either.
     
  19. HomeoftheJets

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    Ironically JJ Watt isn't getting JJ Watt money. The Texans are paying him less than 15M per. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/j.j.-watt/
     
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