PROOF extra distance on KO means NOTHING

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  1. Twombles

    Twombles Active Member

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    If the coverage can't make it there, it's better to have a high kick
     
  2. jetsaholic1094

    jetsaholic1094 New Member

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    Well, that's what I'm talking about. It's poor technique and poor positioning that led to the missed tackles. The fact that they were there in the area inside the 20 means that the kick did not overkick the coverage.
     
  3. cass2005

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    How can you possibly outkick coverage when the first person touches him at the 10? That is a simply absurd statement. Outkicking coverage means the coverage is farther from the returner when the ball is fielded giving him time to gain momentum and pick his holes. So the Jets would have been at the 20 if it was such a line drive. Also, check your hang time stats. It was a touch longer than the other two. I didn't realize someone could find a way to blame this one on nuge...but i guess I was wrong.
     
  4. JetsIn2004

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    TOUCHES and BEING IN POSITION TO TACKLE are 2 entirely different things.
     
  5. cass2005

    cass2005 New Member

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    So how long would you say it takes someone to get in position to make a tackle? If you argument is that he outkicked the coverage and you concede that they touched him, how long would you say it takes someone to get into position to make a tackle? In my opinion, two arms rapped around a guy means he was in position to make a tackle. I just don't see how you can agree that they were touching him by the ten then argue that they were not in position to make a tackle. If they are down that far they should damn well be in position to make a tackle.
     
  6. KSJets

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    Actually, what probably happened was that no one on the coverage team was expecting the guy to run out from the back of the end zone. They were probably easing up a little and were out of position when he started running it back out.
     
  7. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    proof that capitalizing every other word for "emphasis" makes you look like a moron.
     
  8. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I find it interesting that so many people rip Chad for throwing ducks, but Nuge could kick the ball 10 yards every attempt, and people would always find an excuse for him.

    JI is absolutely right. Hang time is non-existent in Nuge's game. I don't give a damn if he kicks it to the back of the end zone, line drives WILL be returned.

    On the subject of guys getting down there, since the first touch was at the 10, consider something. It was a 108 yard return. That means the ball was caught 8 yards deep in the end zone. Therefore, he had an 18 yard head start before first contact. If the ball had been kicked to the goal line, he'd have gotten to almost the 20 before first contact.

    Nuge sucks. Someday people are actually going to realize it.
     
  9. JetsIn2004

    JetsIn2004 Banned

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    I'd rather see a high kick to the 5-7 instead of that liner in the end zone.

    Look, if coverage was in place, no way Hobbs takes it out from 8 yds deep. He knew it was returnable!
     
  10. JetsIn2004

    JetsIn2004 Banned

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    Namecalling again huh?
     
  11. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    There were at least 3 missed tackles before he reached the 25, that was the problem, not the kickoff.
     
  12. Exit 117

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    There's a difference between NAMECALLING and STATING FACTS...
     
  13. JetsIn2004

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    Thanks, now I know... Still reported it though.
     
  14. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I agree with you totally. I've been saying the same thing since the preseason.

    Not that I liked his kicks in previous seasons either. He's never had any hang time. He just kicks the same height a little farther now. Either way, he's not a good kicker, and people need to wake up to it.

    But Chad will forever bear the brunt of the blame for his lame arm...
     
  15. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    He made 89% of his Fgs last year, that is not only a good kicker but a great kicker.
     
  16. Exit 117

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    I can't believe you honestly get that easily offended.
     
  17. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Everyone cool it a little. Name calling and instigating are not tolerated around here.
     
  18. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I don't complain about his FG %. He kicks those well enough the vast majority of the time.

    But he can't kick the ball off the tee, and that's half of his job. He doesn't do half his job well. That's a problem.
     
  19. JetsIn2004

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    There is a history... it wasn't just that item.
     
  20. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    There was nothing wrong with his KOs this game or last year for that matter. There were 3 missed tackles before he reached the 25 yard line, one of those tackles is made(they should have been) we're not having this conversation right now.

    Again he was nearly 90% on his FGs last year, if he can keep that up the least of our worries is the kicker position.
     

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