Preseason Takeaways 2016

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by DarrelleRevis.Human?, Aug 11, 2016.

  1. King Koopa

    King Koopa Well-Known Member

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    I'm not 100% sure it's just my best guess from things I've read and seen

    Like I said before, Fitz has a decent injury history and it would be a huge jump for Petty to suddenly be ready to lead the ship

    Geno has much more experience and I believe we would be alright with him

    That doesn't mean Petty can't do it it's just that it would be a huge gamble that seems unnecessary when you consider the circumstances

    Petty needs to prove he's worthy of being in the Jets future plans...he looks improved so good job so far
     
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  2. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You may be right. Perhaps I am too influenced by the Star Ledger. I think it was them or one of the TC reports that Will posted that posited that the Jets liked Ronald Martin better than Miles and that Middleton had been a TC star, and suggested that Miles and Bailed would be the odd men out.
     
  3. jcass10

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    Because "all else equal" means there is nothing separating the two. Yes Geno has experience starting, albeit playing poorly.

    If the staff thinks that Petty can give them everything Geno can, than Geno will be released.

    Now if the staff believes that Geno is a better backup now but that Petty has potential, than that is a different discussion.

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  4. Frenbar

    Frenbar Well-Known Member

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    Petty has zero experience playing in the NFL, but Geno's experience playing in the NFL has been him losing and making lots of mistakes. If Fitz went down I don't have much confidence in any of the current Jets backups to salvage the season and take us to the playoffs, but my confidence in Petty is no lower then my confidence in Geno. Given the choice between the two I'd choose Petty because he has more potential upside, better physical skills, and he is under contract for years.
     
  5. NCJetsfan

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    I don't think there's any way that Hack would clear waivers and make the PS. He's been too high profile.
     
  6. NCJetsfan

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    Fair enough, but you seem to have forgotten the games in which Geno played pretty well, the talent he has, and the improvement he has made.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

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    Biased much? He wasn't "terrible." That's just ridiculous. He hadn't played in over a year. He missed a tackle, and his coverage was a little spotty. On the two consecutive catches, Milliner was right there when the ball arrived. Sometimes a great throw and a great play on the ball by the WR can't be stopped.
     
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  8. Frenbar

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    I don't think Geno is totally worthless, I think him and Petty both have potential and either could turn out to be salvageable quarterbacks, but while looking towards the future, I think Petty is clearly the better choice for the Jets. In my estimation, the chances of success for either Geno or Petty if they had to step in would be roughly the same. If Fitz went down, best case scenario is that the backup steps up, plays well, and Jets makes the playoffs. If that's Geno, he's going to be looking for a contract in the off season. Are we really going to want to commit big money to locking up Geno for multiple year based on his good play for one partial season? If its Petty, however, he is already locked up for years and we are in a much better position. Given all the knowns and unknowns, I think the Jets are better off going with Petty.

    All that being said, I wouldn't mind seeing the Jets carry 4 qb's into the season. Given our track record there's an excellent chance that at least one of them will go down with an injury and no decision will have to be made.
     
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  9. RuJFan

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    If Petty = Geno, why keep Geno? NFL experience, you say?
    This would actually count against Geno, not for him. If a kid with 2 fewer years of NFL experience, and no on-field experience whatsoever, plays same as former starter, what does it tell you about their respective ceilings?
     
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  10. RuJFan

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    Guess we see it differently
     
  11. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    Petty also has talent and shown improvement. Again, if they are equal, why keep the guy with lower ceiling?
     
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  12. Dreadmadseen

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    Who has a lower ceiling than fitz??? But you love him.. lol...
     
  13. RuJFan

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    The comparison was between Petty and Geno. Try to keep up... actually reading the whole discussion would be a good first step.
     
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  14. Walt White

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    Well, he's from the Parcells tree. And it looks like that tree may be a pear tree from the shape of them....

    Maybe coach should think about a colonic.....
     
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    Just got done watching the game. I saw Petty lead the offense and Geno run the offense, big difference for me. The WR's looked pretty good too.
     
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    Also, note the line was not good when Petty was out there. He had little time and was scrambling alot
     
  17. Walt White

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    I think Petty has come a long way. There's more to it than who out performed who by the numbers.

    Petty said at the start of camp he was ready to compete for the #2 job, and now I believe him.

    I was happy to see his improvement for our team. And it makes the rest of the preseason games that much more interesting
     
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  18. jerseyjay14

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    great throw?

    please rewatch that long play to robinson. it was an AWFUL throw that was way behind a wide open WR. he puts it out in front of robinson and its a walk in touchdown. even then, with an awful throw forcing robinson to come back and allowing milliner back in the play, he made ahorrific effort to break it up and got beasted.

    there isnt a worse corner in all of football.
     
  19. jerseyjay14

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    to expand on that...

    we are already a longshot to make the playoffs WITH fitz. if he goes down, and one fo the other guys needs to start, that chance goes from long to slim/none. at which point i play the unknown who may have a future, even if geno may give us a better shot on any given day.

    there is no upside or longterm with geno. maybe not with petty either, but in that scenario you go with petty and see what you have
     
  20. Walt White

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    Robinson is a stud. But Milliner had a running start to get to that ball and he had picked it up in the air only to take his eyes off of it to locate Robinson and that's where he lost the battle. I don't think he's a good CB either. I never did.
     

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