Potential GM's

I think I read somewhere that the first name to have been released for new GM consideration so far was Houston's director of college scouting. I'll try to find a link, but I was wondering what you guys thought about that? Personally, I think Houston's drafts have been very good as of late- and if this guy is responsible for that, I'd be more than happy to have him aboard.

EDIT: Found the link, take it for what it's worth: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2012/12/jets_looking_at_general_manage.html

 

You don't get the best talent by limiting what they are allowed to do. At this level the men that have risen this far are dedicated, driven, and have a big chunk of ego to go along with it. Any head coach or GM worth the money is not going to be ok with giving up power within their job title.

 

so uhh hey uhh... yeah we have this position open.. its just like a general manager job. BUUUUTTTTTT you dont get to do the contracts or decide who the coach is going to be...

were gonna go ahead and call it.. hmm i dont know.... how about director of player personnel. yeah thats the ticket, so you go out there and find some guys who can do some stuff and then let the capper over here who we already know knows how to fucking mutilate the cap sign em up and then we will give em to the other guy over there... yeah the fat one, well he used to be fat but now he looks like a parasail with all that extra skin. yeah send em on over to him, if they are defensive guys he will lick their toes, if they are offensive guys.... hmmm maybe he can tell em where to go.

so umm let me know if your interested. [big thumbs up!!!]

 

If you want a new GM you hand Polian the checkbook and the pen, or you are not serious.....


There is no second answer.

4 consecutive AFCCG in Buffalo.

Manning in Indy.

Got the fucking rules changed to make Manning, Manning..and Brady Brady. (unwittingly)

 

anybody who is both smart and good will NOT come to the jets with tannybum anywhere in the building. after those bonehed guaranteed contracts to suckchise, toon, and hunter, i would not want tannybum anywhere with or near the team.


but , that assumes the owner has a clue, which is doubtful.

 

There is a similiar situation in Atlanta. Prior to Dimitroff being hired, Rich Mckay was the GM and moved to an administration position but not the football operation. The Jet's could do the same thing.

 

First and foremost, I have a warning for all of you. That is, do not - I repeat, DO NOT - trust the draft work by the Seahawks.

I recall hearing this about Seahawks drafting - that, they had an unfair advantage since, Pete Carroll had the entire scouting report of the PAC-10 division, and they drafted from that division (and those nearby) almost exclusively. Thus 1. Carroll watched most of the kids they drafted, and of course knew what to do with them. 2. Carroll's tenure would be 4th by the next draft (2014). I suspect that is the last year of their draft magic. If they still keep drafting well, then maybe I would have to eat my words but I suspect that is the case. Common sense tells that, lightning never strikes the same spot twice.

Now, why does that matter? It is precisely because the personnel recruiting was THE sticking point for Carroll's return - many teams approached Carroll, but Seahawks were the first to offer him that unprecedented privilege of personnel control that Carroll wanted. (Say that to Rex.)

So, in other words, there was a massive input and control from Carroll in Seattle's recent draft success. You shouldn't credit their GM/scout/whoever for what Carroll is responsible for.

I don't think you know why Polian got canned from Indy.

Hint: it is not 2-14 record.

 

They didn't take many players from the SEC and the ones they did are not very good.

If you meant the Pac-12, they took even less and they weren't very good either.

In fact most of their big hits in the draft have been from all over the place. Earl Thomas-Big 12, Golden Tate-Notre Dame, Chancellor-ACC, Irvin-Big East, Wilson-Big 10, etc

 

I think DaCosta makes the most sense. Rex and DaCosta go back to the same system...plus DaCosta is young and has undoubtedly helped in making the Ravens perennially competitive. Only thing is I'm not sure he'd leave Baltimore (family reasons) plus he is the heir apparent to Ozzie.

 

Yes..Matt Milen.

 

What power would they be giving up as GM? the right to do the accounting? The talent side of the equation would be making all the personel decisions and football operation decisions. The only thing the accounting side would have say in is whether or not they can get the numbers to work. And I will say this, Mike T has been able to get good value on trades, though he's over paid salary to keep guys.

 

The Jets have some good selling points.

What other franchise can offer 3 years of cap hell with no QB, no Line Backers, no Safetys, no RB, and no O-Line?

Who wouldn't want THAT gig????

 

You're splitting the talent acquisition process into two separate groups. Your admin branch is going to actually decide who gets kept long-term by negotiating contracts and trades and doing the cap management. Your talent branch is bringing new talent in but doesn't ultimately control who stays since contracts and trades are outside of its influence.

Accountability needs to be split between player acquisition and player development, not between player acquisition and player retention. Otherwise there's no coherence to the process.

How is this different from the current process? It sounds like you've described the Jets mess on offense to a T.

 

This is the scenario in which Woody throws up his hands when he realizes that he can't get the people he wants to bite on offers this year. He lets Tannenbaum and Rex stay in place for the 2013 run up to the Super Bowl in MetLife and he holds his breath and hopes things don't blow up in his face again.

The cap issues in 2014 are not good but they're no longer a multi-year rolling disaster, they're just the one season to plow through. Easier to get people to bite on that.

 

Look at Ted Thompson in Green Bay. He did a very good job in Seattle before taking the GB job. Thompson inherited a team with major cap issues. He parted ways with 3 key members of the Packer team in Rivera,Wahle and Sharper. Thompson believes in building through the draft. Pluck someone from the Packer tree. Eliot Wolf. I know he is just 30. He has the pedigree of his father and Thompson who gutted the Packer roster and gave the HC job to Mike McCarthy. The Jets are in a similar situation. They have major cap issues. The new GM needs to gut the roster. Draft well. Be patient until some of the bigger contracts are off the books. Wolf was there when the Packers did it.

Wolf as GM

There are plenty of Packer connections for Wolf to tap as HC. Seahawks OC Darrell Bevell was with Wolf in Green Bay. Bevell was an offensive assistant in GB for 3 years. QB coach in GB for 3 years. OC for the Vikings for 5 years. OC for Seattle the last 2 years.

Winston Moss is the Packers assistant HC.

The Packers have many capable executives for Wolf to bring with him. Or other former Packers execs working for other NFL teams which can be brought in.

 

I think we are going to keep Rex and Mr T. Next year will be a throw away year, even if the Jets won't admit it. Maybe Woody brings in a fluffer for a year, to try to get us to believe that he is going to make changes. Maybe Sprano gets fired and they try another coordinator to get Mark going. Basicly nothing is going to change if Woody keeps Tanny and Rex.
With this mentality, we will not improve next year. What will make Woody blow it up next year, is when the stadium is half filled for home game next year like it was last Sunday. Hopefully Rex can coach us into a good draft pick next year, then the real effort to repair the team we love can start.

 

Some upstart that wants a GM position. Typically someone not too old and not burned by stress of previous GM positions. A young up and comer would be nice here.

 

I think the only way Woody can keep Tanny/Rex/Sanchez is to replace Sparano with Norv Turner and hope for the best....the best being a SB appearance at Met Life Stadium.

When you blow the place up it takes 2-4 years for the new group to build their team. Woody wants results NEXT year real bad.

If Woody can get Norv, I'd be ok with keeping things as they were for one more year.

 

This would also mean you would not mind Mark Sanchez starting again next season. If the Jets bring in a veteran QB to compete, and Norv Turner - Mark Sanchez more than likely is going to win that job again because he's familiar with the system.

One last run with Holmes, Braylon, Hill, Keller (one or two year contract?), Cumberland and Kerley is worth trying one more run I guess ... There are some good QBs coming out in 2014 though