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  1. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Okay? Then we should cut Dwight Lowery. He is too slow to play CB in the NFL.
     
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    Sure they do. It happens all the time.

    For example, Renaldo Hill of the Dolphins was a career CB in Arizona and other teams and made the switch and played FS in 2008 and had a nice season.

    If you did a little research and thinking, you'd know many safeties are converted CBs or even vice versa.
     
  3. Jake

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    Passes defensed; and how many times thrown at. You have been enlightened.

    Who cares about rookie tackles? Tackles are an unofficial stat. What good is a tackle if it's made 20 yards down the field. Break up the f'n pass please.
     
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    Oh of course nobody comes cheap. In these days its beyond ridiculous how much money pro athletes are getting paid and something has to be done about it. I mean cheap RELATIVELY, however. I wasn't too clear on that difference in my initial post.

    If we run the 3-4, Boley is extremely undersized and probably wouldn't fit. I believe Channing Crowder signed an extension with Miami.

    Stacy Andrews is a great starting offensive lineman. No arguments. Where would he play on this line?

    Leonard Pope would be worth a shot. He wouldn't be a lock to make the team, but he'd be worth a look.

    Chris Henry? God no. This team doesn't need someone who gets into that much trouble.

    Interesting thought, but HELL NO on Losman. A gunslinger with TERRIBLE decision making and poor accuracy. If he gets on this team, we'd better have three other capable QBs before even giving him a shot.

    Nugent would have to compete with Feeley. He stepped in and had a great season.
     
  5. Jake

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    Miami fans hate Crowder. Apparently he sucks balls... Boley doesn't fit our defense and the oline is set for next year if not 2 years down the road wouldn't you agree? I'd say TE is a strength, Keller needs the ball more. Pope isn't really needed... And Chris Henry is a malcontent.

    Canty intrigues me, but he'll command big bucks to leave Dallas that we probably don't have. But it's okay we have Dwight Lowery to force fumbles and make tackles!!
     
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    a DB is a DB, a safety of course can play, but how many with success, its easy to mention renaldo hill. he's average. Bullitt or Jackson, McCalister. Demps. All average name one that made the switch and it panned out.

    How many passes thrown at?....he was a ROOKIE. of course he was going to get thrown at. but i gave u how many pass deflections, if you were paying attention. 16, and Brandon Carr/Cason who start or who have significant playing time had 7 to 8 a piece. between them.

    Lowery is not a Darelle Revis. But he is the second best corner on the team and deserves one more year to to see if he deserves to remain a starter before you start pulling him out and making him a backup.
     
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    I've been told Harris signed a long term deal last year.
     
  8. SouthBayJetsfan4life

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    Ronnie Lott started as a cornerback and then switched to safety I believe.
     
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    Scratch Boley, I just kind of threw his name out there.

    Stacy Andrews would start at RT. Woody becomes depth, and eventually we cut him. That was kind of the plan anyway, right?

    Channing Crowder is borderline retarded IMO. Still, if he's a good linebacker and can learn the D then he's good to go.

    Decision making is something that can be coached up. It's not like Losman's bad *all* the time either. He was pretty good in '06, the only year he started full time. Think David Carr going to the Giants, but with a lot more potential.
     
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    Lowery actually only had one less pass breakup than Revis in his rookie season... and he was benched the last 4 games for Ty Law.


    But before we get into a debate about defensive back, play the position and then evaluate the position, don't just think drafting, or picking up a free agent is going to eliminate the fact that our pass defense was suspect this season.

    And if you truly watched the Jets games, a good portion of Lowery's tackles were near if not at the line of scrimmage for minimal gains.

    Once we have established that we have no holes in our secondary, by having a dependable strong safety, then we can see who the true weak DB is. I believe Lowery will be impressive again this offseason.
     
  11. Jake

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    Well, it was actually Mangini who pulled him out and made him a backup. And even signed Ty Law off the couch to start ahead of him in the most important games of the season. You do not have me convinced. PDs per Thrown at becomes a ratio. Look up Lowery's ratio and you have a subpar season. Again, could care less if it was his rookie season. A QB scans the field and looks for who is open, he isn't thinking "oh there's a rookie I'll throw it that way" he throws the ball to who is not covered. Lowery got thrown at cause his guy was open ALL THE F*CKIN TIME. Case closed. We can bump this thread next year and if Lowery is our 2nd CB playing at an above average level I will GLADLY eat crow because I want what's best for this team like everybody else. I see with my eyes.

    And no, most of his tackles weren't at the line of scrimmage. Don't know what makes you think that and there's no way you can prove it either.
     
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    Yea Ronnie Lott did, but thats old school. I'm interested to know in players who have made the switch within the last 5 years.

    I can think of Primetime, and Antrelle Rolle. I think perhaps Charles Woodson did the same but wasn't as successful.

    It is possible. I'm not disputing that CBs play Safety, and that TE play WR, vice versa. Positions adjust to the coaching style, but Lowery would not be a safety in the NFL.
     
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    Find me a stat book that has passes thrown at versus pass defended ratio.
    and I can compile plenty of clips from youtube, google vid, that can show lowery making tackles NOT 20 yards down the field.

    RECIEVERS WERE OPEN ALL THE FUCKING TIME BECAUSE WE HAD NO PASS RUSH.

    dont come at me with this bullshit about the pressure being Lowery's man, when Elam and Smith constantly had their head in their asses, and you have players with skills like David Bowens that essentially came out of retirement trying to put the QB on his ass.

    Lowery has the chance to become a great corner, get that "crow" ready.

    Either you've never appreciated the game football enough to understand, if a QB has time to throw the ball. EVERYONE IS OPEN.
     
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    LOL. You just have a man-crush on Dwight. You're right we will see and we will leave it at that, kid.
     
  15. .::PriMeTiMe_KiD::.

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    Perhaps ur right maybe I do. Sike.


    Bump.
     
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    Lowery's gonna be a kickass corner. I see alot of Asante Samuels in him. Said that when he was drafted.

    Breaking news: Asante Samuels wasn't Asante Samuels(!) his rookie year either.
     
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    I hope you guys are right.
     
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    i thought i was the only one.
    i really hope that we get a d coordinator that can coach up even more. perhaps keep ty law as an "inspirational" player, one that can help them progress. at an NFL minimum salary.
     
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    Law isn't a bad guy to have teaching Lowery. Samuels is just a more bitch made version of Law, who was a bit more physical.

    So, I guess Lowery can be a similar kind of player to Law. Hopefully, that'd be pretty damn good.
     
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    Players we need to drop:

    Murrell
    Spencer
    Bowens
    Coleman
    Marcus Henry.
    Bubba Franks.
    J.R. Reed

    Elam or Smith. To me theyre both the same except their both black, ones just a little lighter. Like a vanilla wafer complexion.

    Replace some if not all with FA. address needs with Draft.

    Poof.

    T.J. Houshmazilly. Championship.
     

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