Post PG#2 53 Man Roster Predictions

The way I see it is the only reason to carry a 3rd quarterback is if you view him as a guy who could one day be a starter or a LT developmental prospect. I don't think the coaching staff views Simms as that guy (or Boyd for that matter), so better to roll with 2 and if both Geno and Vick gets hurt we probably sign someone off the street. I don't think that if Vick went down the coaching staff views Simms as a logical replacement anyway (evidenced by the long leash on Geno last year), so why waste the spot on a 3rd QB vs a linebacker or carrying an extra DL?

 

The talk is because if Geno gets knicked up and has to come out, then the chances of Vick getting injured when he comes in are about 50 times more likely for however long he has to play QB.

Not to mention, we need a pocket QB to run that kind of show team during the season, and Vick won't be able to do it as backup, and Simms isn't PS eligible, and Boyd isn't capable.

And Lankster is an excellent STs gunner and possible dime CB option, but he has never elevated himself above that his entire career. His potential has been reached.

 

Adam Schefter
By next week, NFL is expected to increase size of practice squads to 10 players from 8, per source. So 64 more jobs.
7:27pm - 18 Aug 14

My guess is this will probably tilt the battle on the fringe players to the veterans.

 

That door swings both ways unless they change rules when it comes to teams thieving PS players... interesting development though. Especially since it's right the fuck in the middle of a preseason period.

 

With so many fringe guys they'd love to keep, Boyd being PS eligible could be a huge advantage. bye bye Simms?

 

Boyd is trash. The Jets should be using those PS spots for positions of need, not for Rex's foot fluffer.

 

Yeah but they gotta keep a 3rd arm for the scout team and so forth. Wasting a 53 on Simms vs plowing Boyd's scout arm to the PS is what it will come down to. Plus the 3rd arm throws a ton of passes to the WRs, TEs, RBs in individual drills too.

 

Simms is far more valuable for the show team than Boyd is. He's a tall pocket passer with a quick release and decent feet for a scramble.

The Jets face Brady twice, Manning, Rodgers, Cutler, Stafford, Rivers, Roethlisberger, and Alex Smith this year. Which of those guys do you think Boyd or Vick can impersonate with the show team?

It's not just about some young dude that can run and maybe put it together a few years from now.

 

I'm sure Simms would make a better scout team QB than Boyd, but would that justify a 53 vs PS? Maybe it would.

 

Good job. I just have a question or two and a quibble or two.

I understand why you would only keep 2 QBs. Saving that roster spot would be awesome, but I'm not sure it's wise. It would be risky. If Smith stumbles, we already know that Vick is somewhat fragile. While Boyd has some potential, he may never develop into an NFL QB and has looked awful. Simms could do at least a decent job and give the Jets a chance to win. With Boyd at QB, the Jets would stand no chance. Of course if Smith stumbles badly, Vick comes in and then goes down with an injury, they'd probably go back to Smith, but still...would you want Boyd being one snap away from playing? Not me.

I like the RB choices. Bohannon doesn't deserve to stay. If they're content using Sudfield, Richardson or whomever as a blocking TE/FB, fine, but there's another FB on the roster I think who has looked pretty decent. The Jets could opt to keep him and look to trade Richardson.

I totally agree on the WRs & TEs.

With regard to the OL, is Campbell eligible to go to the PS? Wasn't he on the regular roster all of last season? If so, is that enough to keep him off the PS? I'm not sure they'd risk losing him. They seem to be pretty high on him. I think it's likely he sticks on the roster, and I doubt the Jets keep 7 OLBs. Even 6 OLBs would be a bit of a shocker for me. I think T. Davis probably is the odd man out, and if they only keep 5, they may try to sneak Reilly or Enemkpali onto the PS, although based on what I've read (haven't gotten to see any of the preseason games) both deserve to make the team.

On D, I wouldn't be so quick to replace Ellis. He really started playing at a high level last season, and I'd be surprised if they let him walk. I haven't heard that much positive about Barnes. Has he looked that much better than Finau? I've read that Finau has looked pretty good and he could beat out Barnes.

I agree at ILB.

At CB with Milliner hurt and Patterson having a difficult time staying healthy and on the field, I could see the Jets keeping 6-7 CBs, plus we all know how Rex loves CBs. I'm not sure Dixon would make it through waivers, so I think there's a good chance he makes the final roster or they lose him. I also think there's a good chance the Jets either trade for a veteran CB or sign a camp cut.

I agree also at S. I've never been a fan of Bush and thought he was a wasted draft pick.

I like your PS, although I think there's a chance that Hakim, Dixon, possibly Hyder, and maybe even Campbell don't make it to the PS.

It will be interesting. I really hate that McDougle got hurt. I wasn't familiar at all with him before the Jets drafted him. He seems to have a ton of talent and be a good player, but he may be one of those who can never stay healthy.

 

I can't remember the names (O-lineman I think) but we had guys on the 53 last year, all year, that never dressed for a single game. I think that was to keep from losing them off the PS. Seems like a waste of the 53 but oh well.

 

That depends on whether you treat a 52+8 (now 10?) like a Madden roster or an actual football team.

What the hell is Tajh Boyd going to accomplish on the practice squad?

 

Campbell and Aboushi I think.

 

I guess it does depend on what you think of the player you'd be carrying like you said. I'm not a Simms fan, but I do think the Jets see something in him, it least as a developmental player. I don't think they'd have kept him this long if they didn't. Although the drafting of Boyd could be a sign otherwise.

 

Campbell and Aboushi never dressed for a game. Of course the latter seems signature to O-line depth, if not as an actual eventual starter so maybe it was worth it?

 

I tend to lean more to your second point and view that they probably drafted Boyd with the hope that he could unseat Simms. Also, if they really liked Simms, why not give him a chance to compete rather than bringing in Vick and why didn't they give him a full week with the #1s last year to see what he could do when Geno was faltering. Rex talked Simms up last year as the most improved guy in camp but this year mum has been the word.

 

This is the first year where Idzik will have to make tough decisions about cutting his guys. Next Tuesday will be very interesting.

I don't see how we can keep so many outside linebackers. It's tough because Troy Davis can get to the passer and Ik has a lot of special teams value and strength off his initial pop but I think one of those guys are going to have to go as we will have to make room for Brandon Dixon.

I agree on the WRs although I do think either Nelson or Hill has a legitimate shot at being traded or cut in order to make room for Jacoby Ford/Clyde Gates as we need someone who can add special teams value. I am not a fan of Gates makes this team but the coaching staff seems to be high on him, he's having a good camp and we need someone besides Hill to take the top off the defense so I think either Gates or Ford could sneak onto the roster.

I don't think Richardson has much trade value - we picked him up off of waivers and I think it's based off of wins/losses from last year so doubt we'd get much for him.

 

Keep Salas, Cut Gates!!!!

 

They brought in Vick because they didn't know if they had a QB on the roster. If the Jets didnt feel that Geno was taking steps forward Vick would have been given a real legit chance to start.

What it really comes down to is whether or not you think a QB, signed off the street, can come in and play better then a guy like Simms or Boyd. I'm sure there will definitely be QBs out there who are probably better players then either one. But having a third QB on the team means he'll be there every practice, and would have an understanding of the playbook. In Simms case he's already got a full seasons worth of experience in MM's system. I don't think that stuff can be overlooked.

Signing a guy off the couch means he'll have to learn on the fly. But really its all a moot point for the most part. If the Jets lose both Geno and Vick i'd say there's a real good shot the season is lost anyway.