Posada Agrees

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  1. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    You think Posada was overpaid?

    Would he still have been overpaid if the Mets gave him the same deal? (Which if it came from the Mets, would have probably been a few million more.)

    Considering Ivan Rodriguez is getting $100,000 less than Jorge next year, is he overpaid?
     
  2. JoeJet

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    Posada was in the right spot at the right time. Yankees had no choice but to re-sign him. What options did they have? If the Yankees did not sign Posada last night, he would be a Met by now.
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Only because it's his option year and they decided to pick it up. See what a new contract brings him the year after.
     
  4. wildthing202

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/amjump
    WHAT YOU GOT

    52.4 million bucks, if you're Jorge Posada. The deal will keep the catcher in the Bronx past his 40th birthday, after Posada cashed in on a career year. Here is the list of catchers that old who performed at a high level, which I will read in alphabetical order. Fisk, Carlton. That is all.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    You only say that because Arod was there to protect his ass for the last 4 years. You had better hope they get somebody at least as good to replace him or you will see Jeter exposed for the fraud at short that he is.
     
  6. Attackett

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    Yes I think he was overpaid, not nessasarily next year but the back end of the deal without a doubt. I wanted no part of Jorge on the Mets so if it was the Mets that signed him that would not have changed my stance at all.

    Now I don't think the Yanks had any other choice and they had to overpay him to keep him because the Mets would have given him the same deal. That doesn't make it any less crazy to give a 36 year old catcher a 4 year deal when history has proven that catchers decline at this age, let alone 4 years from now.
     
  7. MSUJet85

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    Yes he would still be overpaid even if he did sign with the Mets, with the pathetic depth at catcher, Posada is cashing in big time off his career year when this time last year people were thinking Posada was basically done. Honestly, I think that this will bring ok returns to start as I seriously doubt that he can equal this year again, and hideous returns at the end as even if he is converted to a DH, his age and the beating his body took as a catcher will diminish his skills later in the deal.
     
  8. AlioTheFool

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    Well, I guess this is just a conversation we'll have to revisit 5 years from now.
     
  9. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    id rather overpay jorge posada than torrealba or paul lo duca
     
  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Except you got your alphabet mixed up.
     
  11. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Well this will rile some feathers but I think if Molina played every day he would hit just as well as Posada will next year and play the same level of defense. So, rather then give Posada a 4 year deal I would have let him walk and try to get another catcher next year.
     
  12. Penning10toColes

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    Now, why exactly do you think that?

    I wish you ran the Yankees. Because then, the Mets would have Posada. And who knows who else.
     
  13. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Why? Because Posada is a career .277 hitter (even after this year's .336), that's why. The highest he hit in the last six years was .281 prior to this year. Molina in his 29 games with the Yankees hit .318 and his defense is every bit as good, that's why they got him. Molina hitting in the Yankee lineup would hit every bit as good as Posada will next year.

    Now tell me why you don't.....
     
  14. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    hit just as well as posada? he has a 243 career batting average and has hit 16 career homeruns. in 1000 at bats.

    i really dont think this posada move is as bad as everyone is making it out to be. i think he will perform on a decent level for the next couple of years and then decline. im just glad he will finish out his career as a yankee. worth every penny.
     
  15. Penning10toColes

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    That's a terrible sample size. SixFeetDeep kind of covered the rest.
     
  16. Don

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    Molina has never been an everyday player so you can't use SFD's stats either..not to mention he never played in the Yankees lineup before this year. I wish he had walked and the Mets did pay him 60 million for the next 4 years. Everybody here will feel the same way 2 years from now, you just don't see it yet.

    Don't get me wrong..I'm not saying Molina is as good as Posada...I'm saying the Yankees should have never given Posada 4 years and I would have been willing to have Molina as the catcher next year until they could get somebody else.
     
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    Jeter was the worst defensive shortstop in the majors last year with A-Rod there so I'm pretty sure he's already been exposed.

    As far as Posada I agree that he pretty much had the Yankees by the balls here and giving Posada a bad contract is preferrable to paying a little less money for someone who sucks. And yes, Pudge's option getting picked up is an absolute joke as not only is he old but he's been in steep decline the past 3 seasons as well.
     
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  18. Don

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    The Yankees have offered Rivera 45 million for 3 years..I would give him 24 hrs to accept it or tell him to fuck himself and sign with the Mets.

    In fact, I would give him 1 hour and then cut the cord...fuck him anyway.

    I can't wait to hear Alio defend this deal too.

    The only reason they have done either of these deals is because Steinbrenner wants to throw them in Boras's face for what he said about the Arod opt-out.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3108883
     
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  19. JoeJet

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    The Mets have no interest in Rivera.
     
  20. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yeah, I know that actually...he says he can go with Torre to LA...that's fine too. In fact it upsets me so much that he is even considering it, I want them to pull the offer and get rid of him now. I would prefer Chamberlain starts but the hell with it, let him close and go get another starter.
     

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