Amen ANY QB needs foundation we havent given him that at this point i disagree with seeing more pre-season action ... Against who 2 or 3 string back ups?? ....: if all teams were playing starters yes he should play but not againsts back ups..... if he got hurt with a 2 or 3 strings O-line we be killing gase..... oh wait our starters are back ups never mind
I'll take it a step further....this roster is a LOT better than the last few years, and has playoff potential. Any losing season, unless it's the result of a lot of unfortunate injuries, would be a straight up failure by the coaching staff. We didn't lose on Sunday because of talent.
I disagree with that. This team is weak on talent at several positions but especially CB, OL, K. And those positions were exploited in that loss. they clearly lost because of talent. Buffalo had the more balanced team Sunday
Well Bowles only won 4 games all year last season. So yeah, if Gase doesn't win more than 4 games its a problem - but they obviously will.
I'd give him another year at the very least. He's shown potential so far, and I'll cut him quite a bit more slack than I will for Gase. We need to see how he does behind a good O-line first.
Wow we lost because our kicker couldnt hit a FG or extra point .... thoses 4 points kept the bills in this game
Its amazing that guys want to throw darold under the bus.... do you guys really think brady could do much better with this O-line???
Yes. McDaniels would tighten the formation, giving Brady more time to throw. The drawback is there would be fewer receivers, and they'd be at different levels more toward the middle of the field, which makes the QB's job harder. Brady would complete passes anyway, most other QBs would get picked.
It would depend on if I really liked any of the QBs in next year's draft and why I thought Sam regressed. If I had any reservations at all about Sam at that point, I'd definitely draft a QB, particularly if Tua or Lawrence are in the draft. I'd then let them battle it out in OTAs and TC. I wouldn't care if I had a QB controversy. At least I'd know that more than likely, I had a FQB for my team. The other could backup for a year. If whomever won the competition played well, it would be his job to lose in camp next year, but the backup would get another chance to win the starting job. Both would be showcased in preseason, and if another team lost their starter, I'd hope to trade the loser of the competition to that team for multiple picks.
You read my mind with this post. This is exactly how I would handle it. I think you throw 110% support behind Sam this year no matter what, give him all the help you can give him and see how he responds. IF he regresses this year and you are in a position to draft someone you believe can be the next Mahomes....you make the pick without thinking and worry about excess assets this year.
Wow! These poll results have really surprised me--it's seems most of us have have a record threshold that would put Gase on the hot seat in year 1. My thinking on these results two-fold: 1) Many of us weren't fans of the hire to begin with, so any bad results are just reinforcing what we thing is an inevitable outcome. 2) Gase is a hard guy to root for on a personal level and most of us are emotions driven--so many fans don't have that personal tie that they did with maybe the likes of Rex
The missed PAT was offset by the 2pt conversion. The missed 45yg FG hurt, but a game with 4 turnovers, a TD and a Safety scored by the D should not come down to a 45yd FG try. The offense scored only 8 pts and couldn’t pick up any firsts to close out the game. That’s the main reason we lost, with an assist from the K.
LOL @ this thread after 1 game. Gase would have to royally shit the bed to get fired in his first year. 0-16.
I've been no fan of SNY's Ralph Vacciano, but I think the following article is spot on, rational, and totally fair. I think it's the best article he's written about the Jets. https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/jets-a...ng-back-after-sundays-loss-to-bills/310673642 Ralph Vacchiano | Facebook | Twitter | Archive FLORHAM PARK, N.J. - On his first chance to play Monday Morning Quarterback with his team, Adam Gase didn't hold anything back. His anger was evident. His words were harsh. And his finger was pointed directly at his players. It was an unusual public display of day-after emotion, especially for anyone who lived the four years of Todd Bowles, a coach who rarely showed a public pulse. It was interpreted in some places as Gase rolling his Jets players under the proverbial bus and taking no blame for the Jets' opening-day disaster. So, two days later, after seeing his team's reaction, did Gase have any regrets about what he said? "I probably shouldn't have had a conference call after our (team) meeting was over," he joked. "I was a little upset." Yes, he certainly was. But here's the thing about what Gase said on his conference call with reporters on Monday morning: Every last bit of it was true. Every player, every position group that was called out by the coach deserved to be called out after their disappointing performance. And if they didn't like being called out publicly? Tough. "I mean, anything that I ever say publicly, I've already said privately," Gase said. "I didn't think I was that bad. I thought I was nice." Gase is actually right about that. He wasn't particularly nasty on his Monday morning conference call with the media, 24 hours after the Jets turned a 16-0 lead into a 17-16 loss. He didn't name names, even though plenty could be inferred from what he said about the cornerbacks and receivers in particular. He pointed out mistakes without directly humiliating or belittling the players who made them. For a player who really listened to be offended by his words, he'd have to be incredibly soft. What made it so newsworthy, though, was simply the contrast to his predecessor's monotone, baritone, tone-deaf post-game reactions. The Jets lost 40 games during Bowles' four-year tenure and he never overreacted to anyone. In fact, most times it seemed like he barely reacted at all. And sorry, but this matters: That passionless, robot-like approach never sat well with the media or fans. They're not stupid (generally). They know when things are going wrong. So what's wrong with a coach stating the obvious rather than spouting a mindless, meaningless cliché? Fans get emotionally crushed by every loss - especially one as crushing as when the one on Sunday. Why shouldn't a coach show a little bit of emotion too? How could fans (and the media) not love that? And as for the players, they'll often say they appreciate when a coach is honest. They also love when winning and losing means as much to their coach as it does to them. Sure, nobody likes to have their problems aired publicly. But again, too bad. You like the public praise, accept the public criticism. Welcome to professional sports. And if they're not tough enough to handle it, maybe the new Jets should find someone else who is. Gase tried the say-little approach in his first stop as a head coach. He did his best not to rip into his players publicly, no matter how much he thought they deserved it. Much like with Bowles, that wasn't received well when fans and media could see all the problems with their own eyes. "I never said anything about anybody in Miami," Gase, the former Dolphins coach, said. "I got criticized for that. I was too soft." So far, he's having no such problem in New York, even though the reports of his bark on Monday were far worse than the actual bite. Despite the way his words were portrayed, he didn't leave himself completely out of the criticism. He even made that clear again on Wednesday morning when he publicly questioned some of his own play calls. All Gase did was say what everyone knew: The Jets stunk, some of their position groups stunk worse than others. And he was really, really unhappy about that. "We were frustrated," Gase said. "Everybody was. We lost a game. We watched the film. Mistakes were made. There were some things that I wish I would have done different. I voiced that part to those guys." Did it hurt to hear? Probably. Will the players get over it? They better, otherwise 0-1 could turn into 0-2 or 0-6 before the season even really gets started. The good news is that from what Gase saw, and from what some players said in the locker room on Wednesday, they did get over it quickly. They understood that Gase was only saying what he felt was needed to be said. "Those guys did a good job of trying to listen to what was being said," Gase said. "We have to fix things fast and those guys did a good job of embracing that. It's not easy, after a loss, to handle any kind of criticism. When you have to fix things after a win, it's a lot easier. You can say whatever you want, and nobody cares because you won. But after a loss, everything is magnified." That's true. So if any player was really bothered by Gase's hot take, that's some good incentive. If they don't want to be publicly criticized by their coach, the solution is simple: Win.
If he matches Bowles 4-12 record from last season or worse. If they start 0-6 or worse he should be fired midseason. The entire point of bringing in a experienced HC was to avoid rookie HC mistakes. Every rookie HC the Johnsons brought in had a winning season in year 1 so for this guy to do much worse, after the spending spree they went on would be a disaster.
Yea well it was a SOJ loss on Sunday so what do you expect...Such a Same Old Jets type of performance.
Careful with that strategy with no hardware to back it up. How long before players call out coaching decisions? Beat Cleveland or else.
If we lose to Cleveland we need to start looking for a new Coach...This was a bad hire from the start..I like Greg Williams though.
