Poll: What Record Would Call for a Year 1 Gase Fire?

See, this is where I disagree when you state that the Bills "waited until the 4th quarter to expose the Jets weakness at cornerback".

It is no coincidence that the defense forced 4 turnovers and held the Bills to 0 points with CJ Mosley in the game and 17 straight points without him.

Losing him crippled our defense. We didn't get "exposed". We lost our defensive play-caller and a HUGE presence in the middle of the field.

He left the game and Buffalo walked down the field rattling off big runs and open receivers up the middle.

 

It is not about you calling for Gase to be fired.

It's about the fact that there is even a thread speaking about firing a head coach after ONE game into his career with this organization.

That, in of itself, is fuckin absurd

 

Exactly. It's also the first game and the defense wore down.

 

I gave this post a like even though I disagree with your statement that "the bills waited until the 4th quarter to expose the Jets weakness at cornerback." Allen and the Bills tried earlier and he did hit on a long pass or two earlier, but he also threw 2 interceptions and I think fumbled the ball away. With Mosley in there, the Jets were much tougher vs the run and he was doing pretty well vs the pass, too. I think it has been understated that Mosley calls the defensive signals. Williamson could have done it if not injured. Who was calling the defensive signals with Mosley out? That, the lack of a quality kicker, and the D tiring because the Jets' offense didn't have many long, clock-eating drives resulted in the loss.

 

Maybe Gase is a turd. Maybe he is not.

But firing him after ONE year audition is about the last thing I will even think about considering.

Jets had a SB coach in Pete Carroll - who was fired after promising one year run. He was replaced by *Gulp!* Rich Kotite. Go figure.

 

This roster is no worse than the ones Bowles went 5-11 with. Plus we supposedly have a non-rookie franchise QB, which Bowles never had. And after the first six games, pretty much every game outside the one in Baltimore is winnable. Mac's failures most likely ruined our playoff chances this year, but if we're terrible, that's on Gase (and Darnold) as much as it is on Mac. It isn't on Douglas because he didn't get a chance to run this offseason, but if we're terrible (not mediocre but legitimately terrible) and he keeps Gase, then I'd seriously question Douglas's judgment.

 

Apples to oranges. Carroll was a rookie head coach, and rookies can improve the next year. Like Doug Pederson who struggled in his first year with the Eagles and is now one of the best coaches in the league. But this is Gase's fourth year as a head coach, and our hope wasn't that he'd be different than he was in Miami. It was that when happened in Miami wasn't his fault, and now that he has Darnold, our offense would be good. But if by the end of the year, it's the same old Gase, it's way more likely that keeping him will waste another year than that he'll turn into a good coach. Having said that, this was one game. And though it was concerning, I'm not calling for his head now, and I won't be calling for it midseason either.

 

A team in a new system with new CS needs time to gel. It would have been asking a lot for this team to be world beaters from day 1. O-line never played together & they were going up against a real good defense. Gase had to play dink & dunk & when he called for Sam to drop back, Sam was either sacked or pressured badly. Give it time. Bold Prediction: Jets will win 7 out of last 10 games.

 

How about a thread what we need to improve on to beat the Browns instead of firing our coach after week 1 and a one point loss.

 

Offense: Pass protect and complete passes that travel more than 10 yards in the air.
Defense: Hope everyone's healthy and Mayfield doesn't shred the secondary.
Special Teams: Find a kicker.

 

And awaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy we go!

 

Douglas is HERE because of Gase. he is Gase's handpicked guy. they could finish 1-15 and Douglas isn't gonna fire Gase.

 

Maybe we overrated our team before the season began.. We knew the OLine was shit but people thought the D was gonna be all world mostly because of the new DC and our potential DROY. Throw in a new FO/CS and new Unis and the hyper expectation train was leaving the station. Then reality hit in the form of a division rival who took advantage of our lack of depth on that vaunted D. Now? we all see a team that is not going to dethrone the Patriots this year. Especially with AB on that roster. I doubt if anyone wants to hear "work in progress" or 2020, but the one year turnaround really wasn't realistic but based instead of the emotion of all the hype surrounding the offseason..

Settle down boyz. We were never going 16-0. Give JD time to rebuild the roster instead of having him rush it and give Gase time to prove to us that his stay in Miami was a fluke and not what he really was/is.

 

Carroll did nothing as an NFL HC for 7 years. He took over a loaded team in NE from Parcells and proceeded to turn them into a turd. He had to rebuild his resume in College to get another chance in the NFL. BB took over the 8 and 8 Pats team that Carroll left him and proceeded to turn it into a 5 and 11 turd in his first year after turning a 1 year playoff team in Cleveland to 5 and 11 in 1 year.

 

Those that are so confused why people are already calling for the head of, Gase.

This isn't a situation of much grace period for this coach. This isn't your typical hire of the unknown commodity.

This particular HC, LITERALLY, just had a HC position with our division rival, and failed. Badly.

Then we INSTANTLY hire the fucking guy, based on what exactly?

He will not get the same grace period that other coaches have gotten based on that alone. Then you factor in the fact that we haven't been to the playoffs since 2010, fans are fed up, it was a tough pill to swallow hiring this guy to begin with for a lot of us fans. Results are the one and ONLY thing that will keep a lot of us satisfied.

This guy gets ZERO patience with me. A lot of others feel the exact same obviously. It's time to put up or shut up. There is no honey-moon grace period here. Sorry.

If we had lost in a reasonable way yesterday, it probably wouldn't be this bad. How we lost and the fact that we lost, it's unacceptable, it shouldn't be a surprise that so many fans are upset. It's actually equally confusing to me that people don't understand why this HC isn't getting the same treatment as coaches before him. It is obvious to me.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Plus at 1-15 (which isn't going to happen), CJ would probably sack Gase anyway.

 

he won't get sacked after 1 year and shouldn't until the FO has a chance to try to turn around the terrible state of this football team which is not a 1 offseason job given we have nothing on the O-Line, awful defensive backs and zero pass rush - quite how it is possible to get the draft and free agency so wrong is kind of impressive in its own way

 

given the Pats wiped the floor with the steelers without AB I don't see that making any real difference - fact is we will never overtake the Pats until Brady and Bill retire - wake me up in 5 years please

 

The only person that can fire Gase is Chris Johnson. That's how the org chart is set up.