Chris Johnson cannot repeat the bowles experiment, as in, you cannot hold on to a coach and hope he gets better. Gase has been a HC now for a few years, albeit not for the Jets. If we're unable to at least have 7-8 wins, there should be serious consideration made for firing him. Ultimately, the power structure is still bad, as Gase/Douglas are on equal footing again, which is problematic. Douglas deserves the right to choose who he wants as coach
I still cant believe Gase was actually hired in the first place ! I mean if his buddy Joe D had hired him that would be understandable but the clueless Johnson Brothers hired him. I hope Gase proves me wrong and wins but I don't see it as the guy was a loser in Miami and IMO nothing will change here. To answer your poll ---the only way Gase gets fired is if he implodes with the owner / other coaches and players as he did in Miami. I still cant believe we hired this guy he aint going anywhere after year # 1
Yes, you have been calling for guys to calm down, but imo, this thread was a horrible idea. It just eggs those guys on. Starting a thread with a poll about firing Gase is like pouring gasoline on the fire. He's not gonna get fired after one year, nor should he.
Gase is not getting fired after one year if for no other reason than Joe Douglas and he are very good friends, and Chris Johnson knows he's lucky to have Douglas, so he's going to support him and go along with whatever he wants for at least 2-3 years, so stop the insanity! Some of you are being little children and totally ridiculous.
While I agree with much of what you wrote and BTW I also agree that he most likely is not fired after this season I think we need to actually see how the rest of this year plays out , the guy sure as hell aint being fired AFTER GAME 1 .
I definitely agree that we need to see how the year plays out. I wasn't in favor of hiring Gase, either, and in fact, got very depressed when he was hired. You have been consistent in your doubts about Gase and the Jets for this season, as have a couple of others. I understand and respect your doubts, questions, and taking a "wait and see approach." What I don't understand is some posters thinking the Jets could go to the SB this season or others (perhaps some of the same posters), now getting so bent out of shape about yesterday's game. Yes, it was disappointing and frustrating, but not entirely surprising based on Jets' history, the fact that we have new systems in place, the starters had little or no game experience together in preseason, and limited practice time together due to injuries and Kalil coming in at the last minute and having to get into shape. We knew we didn't have much of a pass rush, our CBs stink and our OL is shaky at best. It remains to be seen, what, if anything, Gase and Williams are able to do scheme-wise to minimize the damage those glaring deficiencies will cause. Mac screwed us royally, and Chris Johnson did waiting so long to evaluate Mac. The two main positives we have that give hope for the future are Darnold and Douglas, and even they are unknowns. Darnold still has to develop and Douglas hasn't had an off-season yet. Next year this time, we could be a lot more hopeful, or even more depressed and negative than ever. It's going to be a bumpy ride.
NFN but Gase hasn't given me any indication that he can run a legit NFL offense. Not in MIA and now, running that same tank crap here. Sorry, you can all give Britney a chance but this is pretty easy to see and has been easy to see for a while.
I always enjoy your input. I thought it might be interesting to look back this this after the season, especially as things start to settle in for the team and fan expectations. I am a big believer in stability and continuity, however there's another part of me that says-if we don't have the right guy than better to do it now and later. That was the case with Mac in Christopher Johnson's eyes, except he didn't pull the trigger in time. It would seem, just from early voting, that the expectation is that something is wrong if we don't AT LEAST match or improve slightly over last years record. That would seem to be reasonable, based on Darnold improving and a more talented roster overall. One big thing, which all of us have tirelessly harped on is the kicker situation. This issue, if not resolved soon, can and will cost us many games this year. That is not an exaggeration. Thanks for the participation and I hope this thread, if anything, at least promoted more structured conversation regarding the frustration after week 1. Perspective always helps. Trust in Joe D to get us where we need to be.....lets just hope we REALLY DO have our answer at QB.
I long for the days were an NFL fan-base (not just ours) can say "Put it behind us, let's get them next week". But, we all live in mega-hyped-instant-gratification world now.
Agree with you, he hasn't proven anything yet, this season will be an indicator either way. Either he does well to confirm himself a "QB whisperer" or he does bad and he's on at the very least a very hot seat.
Bell is Bell he gets his shit done no matter who the coach is ... next week is huge if we lose our season is basically over.
New England might go undefeated I don't know if Pittsburgh is just trash or the Pats are just that good but if history shows us anything it's the latter
For better or for worse, I believe Gase will have until 2020 to prove himself as some of our biggest holes are hopefully filled. OL, CB, Edge, WR, K, etc....
I respect your opinion. I would respectfully agree to disagree about the purpose of this thread. It is inevitable that this board is going to be running hot after a loss....it's been that way for years. I just enjoyed reading it for years and recently decided to start participating in the conversation. If the majority of the board is going to be fired up after a loss, like most teams fan bases, lets at least put some structure behind the discussions and talk about data driven opinions. If someone says Gase "should be canned after this loss", they should at least be able to say with the expectation was to begin with and why. Again, I AM NOT calling for Gase to be fired. This is to simply get a feel for what expectations are at this point and help people regain perspective.
If they win 4 or less games, he needs to be one and done. If they win between 5 and 7 games, but both wins and losses are heavily marred by sloppy play and overly conservative playcalling that doesn't seem to improve throughout the year, I would say fire him. Our history has shown that these situations never, ever improve, and they always get worse as the years wear on. If, however, they win 5 or more games and miss the playoffs, but they play solid and improve as the year goes on, I'd say give Gase another year to show what he can do with a good O-line and corners.
51 years isn't exactly mega-hyped-instant gratification. On the flip side it's a competition and losing is a given when you're not that good and rebuilding for the 25th time in 50 plus years. If you can't take it get off the band wagon.
Band wagon? I'm just saying the last thing I need to see this morning after being at the game is a poll/ discussion about the new coach getting fired.
