Let's also look at their overall offensive rankings: Passing Play Percentage - Ranked 30th Passing Yards Per Play - Ranked 17th Passing Yards Per Game - Ranked 14th Pass Attempts Per Game - Ranked 20th
Texas and OU weren't even top 50 teams in defense. They were both in the 60s. In fact they only played two teams in the top 50 in defense, TCU and KSU (neither was even top 10). And his results? 4-3 TD int, and 200 yards a game. In a system that for a decade has made JAGS into the top passers in football. A kid too dumb to make a legit college. Yea, let's put our future in his hands.
He's got the right of it. It's not so much is Geno the best QB on paper in this years draft, it's how much better is he really than the next couple of guys. To me I would rather solidify other positions and draft a QB in the 3rd. Maybe he turns out to be a starter, maybe he doesn't but he's a great backup, either way I see that as win win. As opposed to taking a guy in the top 10 and him becoming nothing more than a backup. I would feel fine with us getting Glennon or Manuel in the 3rd or later. 1st round at #9 I would rather have: Dion Jordan OLB, Ezekiel Ansah OLB, Eric Fisher OT, Chance Warmack G, Star Lotulelei DT 2nd round just rinse and repeat. Go after any of the guys above if they're there if not go for the next best at the position in line. I'd also throw Kenny Vaccaro into the mix at this point. 3rd round is when you look to see if Glennon or Manuel are still around. If they are sure, take a flyer on one of them, if not rinse and repeat wait till about the 5th or 6th and get Landry Jones 4th round might be too late, we may have to make this move in the 3rd but I think it's a move we should make. Take Marcus Lattimore! I want to open up the NYJ Need to Draft Marcus Lattimore Foundation, this guy is a stud and recovering quickly. Please Idzik pull this one off.
Check out this from Mel Kiper circa 2007: •Ohio State junior DE Vernon Gholston was nothing short of sensational in the Buckeyes' 14-3 win over the Wolverines. Michigan was simply unable to keep him out of the backfield for any extended period of time (he finished with four tackles for loss -- three of which were sacks). Although most of his damage was done away from LT Jake Long, the senior found out firsthand just how difficult it can be to try to keep No. 50 away from the quarterback, as he was beaten to the outside and surrendered a sack. Gholston brought both outside and inside pressure, displaying very impressive power and closing speed. Of the top prospects at the position for the 2009 draft, he has clearly proved to be the best of the bunch when it comes to generating heat on the quarterback. Case in point: The trio of Florida's Derrick Harvey (6.5 sacks), Miami (Fla.)'s Calais Campbell (six sacks) and LSU's Tyson Jackson (2.5 sacks) has combined for 15 sacks. Gholston has 13! Yeah Mel Kiper is a draft guru. LMFAO
I just dont see to many teams pulling the trigger on a QB early this year. All the teams in front of us are signing vets or making trades...with the depth at widout I see more teams goin wide receiver early.
Every year, I get a call from the Jets asking me if I want to buy season tickets. I tell them I'd love to but since they are forcing people to pay tens of thousands of dollars for those ridiculous PSLs, I refuse to.
See, Geno is a lot more developed and pro ready. EJ has the tools to be successful, but he has a lot more to work on. EJ has potential to be as good as Geno Smith can be or even better, but IMO its a lot more likely Geno reaches that than EJ. Now, if you have a great franchise that knows how to develop a young QB with great coaching and a long term plan for EJ, I would be all for it. For the Jets, I think it would be easier turning Geno Smith into an NFL QB.
Being a State fan, I got the opportunity to watch our relatively legendary win over FSU and Manuel (wish I saw it in person). Needless to say, the guy definitely turtled up when the pressure was on. One incident in where he absolutely did NOT need to get sacked in the third quarter, and he gets sacked. He regularly folds up under pressure against mediocre teams (I'll be honest) on the road. I wouldn't want to risk a lot on him, nor pick him. I'd take Glennon or Geno before him.
I am right there with you on Marcus, if the kid can build up his quads/hamstrings to help stabilize that knee then the kid is a freakin beast. He is exactly what this team needs. I look at what San Fran did, build the trenches, we have done the with the D line, now we need one more peice on the O line or that goof Vlad to actually play like a second rnd pick. If Vlad is good then we go OLB in the first or Austin. I would really look at tight end if Eifert is still there, EJ, or like one of the Tennessee wideouts. Another option is Austin in the first, EJ n the second and Stedman Bailey in the third. Marcus in the fourth praying he is still there and in one year we fixed the entire O.
Rex already has his franchise QB that "gives us the best chance to win" and would never give Idzik permission to draft anyone other than a defensive player, most likely a pass rusher, with the 9th overall pick :beer:
Kansas State - 65.6% 1 TD 2 INT 143 Yards Oklahoma - 57.1% 4 TD 2 INT 320 Yards these are really the only 2 teams he played that were anywhere near good. texas was borderline good but they really werent and that was his only game he played even decently against a better than bad team. he cleaned up on the marshalls and baylors (they just didnt play defense for most of last year) against the best team he played even his high percentage passing offense was only 57 percent. 65 percent with 1 td and 2 ints and only 143 yards is a pretty poor performance if you ask me. i just dont see him as a viable option for an nfl team. he is great when he has nobody in his face and open receivers he puts the ball right where it needs to be. but when the pressure is on he does not perform nearly as well. he is the guy who throws 2 incompletes in practice but bombs in the big game.
I don't know this for sure, and I know if it is true they would never make it public, but if I had to guess Rex now has very litttle to do with the front office. I would say Idzik's been given all the power to do what he wants, and Rex just got to keep his job. I'm sure Rex is right there in player negotiations and contract discussions but when it comes to the final decision he's nothing more than a fly on the wall. This is what I believe to the case and this is another reason why I don't see us drafting geno at 9. Idzik's not going to draft a controversial 1st round QB in his first year as a GM.
I'm open to the selection and have become a fan of really athletic type QBs with the emergence of aforementioned young pivots, but I know nothing about college ball and find it so difficult to evaluate college QBs. I will support the pick if it happens.
you guys are fucking crazy. you guys seriously act like elite quarterbacks grow on trees. if geno smith can be as effective as, lets say, ben roethlisberger, you 100% draft him at 9. this team was pretty bad last year, but that is solely because of the offense. our defense is good enough that if geno plays like even a mediocre QB his rookie year, we could make the playoffs also, him falling to 9 isn't so crazy anymore with the bills getting kevin kolb, cardinals loving matt barkley and wanting carson palmer, and the raiders getting matt flynn
Man I don't know folks I am not sold on smith and i think there is great risk to picking him 9 or 13 or whenever in round 1. Time will tell. FWIW I don't like his footwork, delivery/arm angle, and the tape I have seen - his ball tends to float a bit. Maybe that can all be worked on and improved.
I see and understand your point and line of reasoning, but I guess I'm not too confident in him as a guy to build the franchise around...... He may see success but with a team that allows to sit an simmer for awhile with pieces around him, and right now the JETS are not that team imo.....we'll see
