The Jets defense is two games away from setting an unbreakable all time record of zero interceptions in a season. And Glenn is supposed to be a defensive coach specializing in defensive backs. Even Gase didn't manage to pull off something that disturbing.
2/3 have wild turnover luck though. The Jags and Bears are fun stories this year but I’m very curious to see how they look next year. Turnover differential is always hard to carry over year to year.
I would be ok with him coming back if: 1) Glenn had shown something this year 2) The Jets didnt have any draft capital BUT he showed nothing AND the Jets are in a franchise changing position in terms of draft capital. Allowing Glenn to return will be a fatal error that will effect the coming years when the Jets have a great position to turn this around if the right moves were made in terms of drafting and coaching hire.
I agree, good coaches are better than bad coaches. I do think that keeping a bad coach is better than firing a bad coach and hiring another bad coach, and I think this is FAR more likely.
This is where I've quickly settled in on. I think this much draft capital married to an Aaron Glenn coaching regime is basically throw away. The jury is still out on Mougey as far as a GM is concerned albeit the early returns are promising. HOWEVER couple that draft talent with, clearly, a coaching staff that doesn't belong heading a DIII school and they will be taking what should be a franchise altering couple years and flush it down the ole' crapper. I've seen NOTHING from the Glenn era, so far, that instills a shred of confidence that he can coach up DEFENSE let alone any players on the offense. So, yeah...
No. But my point is that the Jets are their own worst enemy. They’ve hired poorly although that’s their own doing. It’s not some league conspiracy where decent candidates don’t want to come here. We’ve just made egregiously bad decisions.
Reasonable, and not at all wrong. It's just hard for me to imagine that if a candidate had the option to become a head coach in the NFL, and he had more than 1 team available as an option, that he would choose the Jets. I've been a fan for over 40 years, and as much as I bleed Green, I would sooner work for any other owner than Woody. I'd take the Browns or Raiders jobs first.* *Even for less $$$
Why though? The Browns have a worse owner and have been a drastically worse franchise than us. They’ve made the playoffs 4 times since 1990. The Raiders too. They’ve made the playoffs twice since 2003. As bad as our 15 year drought is, those are probably worse.
No kidding, at least they have had recent (within the last 30 years) of success! I don't know much about Curling or Jai alai or Cricket or Rugby or Soccer but I'm willing to bet there's not a professional sports team, on the planet, that has had the run of just dog shit teams since the 60's that the Jets have had. I'm sure there's some miniscule sport out there but... I mean, 4.................four......................FOUR!!! That is the # of Division titles the NY Jets have won in their entire existence. That isn't just a travesty, that's got to be up there with Unicorns or some shit like that as almost unbelievable. ESPECIALLY in the Salary Cap era where parity was the entire point of the exercise. JSMH
I could live with that 2003 was a Super Bowl run. Hell, there's many a Jets fan who could say the would be able to die with a smile on their face if the team actually showed up in a Super Bowl in the last 20-ish years. Edit: I take that back. Wouldn't even take a SB run. Hell, I'd be happy with above .500 for a change.
I used them as an example because they are also terribly run organizations. However, it feels like they are at least swinging for the fences and missing the ball -- it feels like Woody is missing the ball while trying to putt.
He needs to be fired. Anyone looking at this objectively would come to the same conclusion. If you bring in someone proven at running a team like Harbaugh or McCarthy they would be able to make this team competitive by 2027 if not next year. This all comes down to Woody Johnson. Can he admit he was wrong? Can he admit he should have hired the best candidate rather hire based on who would get rid of Rodgers because he had personal feud with him? Probably not and if anything Rodgers having success in Pittsburgh likely drives Woody even more mad to double down on Glenn to prove he made the right choice when he clearly did not.
He should be fired but he won’t be, his ego drives a lot of his decisions and that scares the hell out of me, especially with all the draft capital the Jets have this season. I have a terrible feeling that the draft which could turn this team around quickly, will not be good because he’s a bully, and acts like he’s in this alone and he’s some kind of mastermind with a plan that no one has seen before. I believe having thick skin is important as a HC, however the team has looked unprepared and outmatched within the first 10 minutes of the games. I feel like it’s just a matter of time before the opposition starts having their way with jets every game.
This team is so much worse than last year under Ulbrich, I would take Ulbrich, Saleh, fuck even Gase in a second over Glenn.
This last point is fucking spot on! Two things: 1. For a while there, we were flipping between DC’s who ran the 4-3 and then a DC who ran the 3-4, and that caused us to constantly have to change players…we had Vilma as a great 4-3 MLB, but then we switched to the 3-4 and he was too small for that role. We’ve done this plenty of times. 2. The other issue is that because we suck so often, we hear the fucked up excuse that runs something like this: “well, we are losing WITH player X, we can easily lose WITHOUT player X” … shit we heard that this year with both Sauce and Q. And this team loves to buy into the excuse and the “hope” of future draft picks, which have inevitably been wasted time after time after time. Totally hard to build a better roster when you keep getting rid of good players…we just traded two All Pro’s for the chance to draft more All Pro’s, which is not common at all.
If you come into a job lauded as the lieutenant on a team that played like they would do anything they could to win a game, you would hope something like that would bleed over in the big culture shift. Maybe it's too soon to see those effects, but you expect to see something different and a higher level of competitive spirit start to show up on the field during the season. This team has showed as little heart and focus on the field as any Jets team that I've seen in maybe ever. The defense looked like an afterthought and then they fired their DC hiring choice as the sacrificial lamb, even though the hire was it's own head-scratcher. For decades, there's been little to look forward to with this team outside the hopeful uncertainty of the NFL draft, the only place the Jets are allowed to act like they matter in the NFL. Glenn has not elevated that even in the slightest. Yeah, fire him. He's failing as generically as you can Bring on the next disaster, and make it more entertaining at least. I want flying tacos.
The first 10 years of Woody's tenure were him doing nothing and letting what was left of the Parcells guys run the team. After that, the Jets have been the worst team in the NFL.
That’s fine. Do you think prospective coaches stay away from the Jets more than the Browns or Raiders?
